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re: Official Thread: Missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370

Posted on 3/11/14 at 3:33 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 3:33 pm to
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I mean, I am open for a terrorist group being the cause of this incident, and saving the method for a higher profile attack.

But anyone who says the group can go on indefinitely without claiming responsibility doesn't understand the word "terrorism."

At that point its just "murder"


Right. Terrorists goal is to create terror. If no one claims the deed, it pretty mach makes takes the terror out of terrorism. Letting people wonder what happened for days, weeks or even months would make for shitty terrorism.

Not all hijackings are terrorism. They have a different goal.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
95496 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 3:34 pm to
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One does not have to believe that the plane landed safely at some undisclosed location to believe that a criminal act caused the situation.


Correct - the most disconcerting aspect is that we do not even know how it came from being in the air to - not being in the air.

I guess that's what makes it intriguing. If the plane was all in flames - scattered over the Malaysian countryside - or on the surface of the Malacca Straits, with luggage and whatnot floating - we would have the "what" - and be looking for the "why" (e.g., act of terrorism, pilot error, mechanical failure) - but now, it is as if someone plucked that plane out of mid air and is toying with us, like we're some sort of amped up small breed terrier dog.

"Where's the plane?" "Go get the plane." "Go get it!"
This post was edited on 3/11/14 at 3:36 pm
Posted by Traffic Circle
Down the Rabbit Hole
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 3:34 pm to
If Aliens took it, is it terrorism or hijacking?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 3:35 pm to
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If Aliens took it, is it terrorism or hijacking?

Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40809 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 3:36 pm to
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Not all hijackings are terrorism. They have a different goal.



New theory. The two Iranians with the fake passports got on the plane to go to Germany.

They sit down, check their little screen mid flight, and realize they aren't heading directly to Germany, but via China.

They then "hijack" the plane to take a more direct route, not understanding the idea of a "stop over"

But ya, a hijacker can have a way different motive than a "terrorist," see the Sochi failed hijacking. I don't think that guy had any aspirations besides changing the flight path of the plane.
This post was edited on 3/11/14 at 3:38 pm
Posted by Traffic Circle
Down the Rabbit Hole
Member since Nov 2013
5017 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 3:37 pm to
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quote: Not all hijackings are terrorism. They have a different goal.


Aliens would seem to have a different goal than regular terrorists.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40809 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 3:38 pm to
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Aliens would seem to have a different goal than regular terrorists.



That would be anal probing. And if that would be the case, I'm willing to make a special exception to the definition of terrorism for that one.
Posted by redstick13
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Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 3:39 pm to
Maybe they flew in circles to throw off ATC before dipping below radar. Then they landed on the doctor evil island.
Posted by jdd48
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
23695 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 3:39 pm to
This guy says they're searching in the wrong area:

LINK

He is an attorney though... may be looking to represent victims' families.
This post was edited on 3/11/14 at 3:41 pm
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
69996 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 3:40 pm to
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That would be anal probing. And if that would be the case, I'm willing to make a special exception to the definition of terrorism for that one.


if it is determined that aliens are performing anal probing I will definitely fear terrorism...at this time I don't
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 3:41 pm to
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I mean, I am open for a terrorist group being the cause of this incident, and saving the method for a higher profile attack.


It could also just be that they intended to fly the plane into a high profile building in Kuala Lumpar but fricked it up. So the people responsible for planning it are circling the wagons to try it again, not taking credit for a failed act so they don't look foolish or draw attention.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40809 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 3:41 pm to
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This guy says they're searching in the wrong area:

LINK


Thanks for the article, but it didn't say where he thinks it would be. I'm disappointed.

quote:

It could also just be that they intended to fly the plane into a high profile building in Kuala Lumpar but fricked it up. So the people responsible for planning it are circling the wagons to try it again, not taking credit for a failed act so they don't look foolish or draw attention.



That would make sense if that indeed happened. I never claimed not claiming this incident wouldn't be a method to conduct terrorism, just that at some point, you have to reveal your goal or no one knows there are even terrorist nor can they be motivated to accept your "demands."
This post was edited on 3/11/14 at 3:43 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 3:42 pm to
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But ya, a hijacker can have a way different motive than a "terrorist," see the Sochi failed hijacking. I don't think that guy had any aspirations besides changing the flight path of the plane.


Sometimes the goal of a hijacker is to seek asylum, or get some prisoners released by holding hostages.

I think it was a hijacking that ended badly.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 3:43 pm to
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I think it was a hijacking that ended badly.


Before redstick gets all passive aggressive, this is where I am as well. My post on terrorism was not a vote for that theory.
Posted by learnthehardway
B.R./Northshore
Member since Oct 2007
10023 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 3:44 pm to
I think we are overdue for an updated list of possible scenarios and percentages. IMO the lack of solid information on "reasonable" explanations should significantly increase the probability of Alien involvement.
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 3:45 pm to
quote:

What are the plausible outcomes at this point?

1. Crashed with no foul play
2. Hijacked and crashed
3. Hijacked/landed and all people onboard killed
4. Hijacked/landed and all people onboard in captivity
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
69996 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 3:46 pm to
why would terrorists hijack a plane at night? to fly it into a building? other reasons?
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 3:47 pm to
quote:

It could also just be that they intended to fly the plane into a high profile building in Kuala Lumpar but fricked it up. So the people responsible for planning it are circling the wagons to try it again, not taking credit for a failed act so they don't look foolish or draw attention.



I really think this has legs...
Posted by RunningBlake
Member since Aug 2011
4123 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 3:47 pm to
fuel tank exploded at 38000 ft.
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
Member since Feb 2013
10136 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 3:47 pm to
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Teddy Ruxpin


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