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re: Officer killed in Tuscaloosa
Posted on 9/16/19 at 11:34 pm to East Coast Band
Posted on 9/16/19 at 11:34 pm to East Coast Band
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This occurred in the West side of Tuscaloosa. Which, from what I gather, is very similar to Baton Rouge's North side of town.
Yep, checks out.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 11:36 pm to Iron Lion
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Gestapo cops here in Northport.
Honest question
Why does Northport have a police dept separate from Tuscaloosa?
Posted on 9/16/19 at 11:38 pm to TigersSEC2010
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This doesn't sound like a neutered police force as much as a spontaneous ambush.
I’m referring more to the rise in crime in Tuscaloosa.
I'd be curious to hear about it, too, from locals, but it doesn't sound like that's the case to me. Crime rate has gone down quite a bit over the last decade.
I think it's possible that you just hear a lot more about it now because the size of the student body has doubled in that time frame and abuts up against what were previously super-rough areas. Same thing has happened in South Bend - that town was rough as shite when I was there, but crime has gone down quite a bit as the town has gentrified thanks to an infusion of university money, but property crime remains a big problem as students push further and further out into what used to be impoverished areas that had some of the highest crime in the city.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 11:41 pm to TigersSEC2010
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I’m referring more to the rise in crime in Tuscaloosa.
I don't know the statistics about if crime is rising or falling around here. As far as I know , it's always been in existence. Mostly B on B type crime, robberies here and there. The suburban areas get hit with petty car break ins regularly, and random rednecks get busted for meth, etc.
As far as who could play a role, the long term mayor (about 10 years or so, Walt Maddox, is a democrat, but mostly a central political leaning one. The City of Tuscaloosa Police Chief is/ was a black guy, who for the most part is OK with everyone, except he is stepping down to take some position at the University. The Tuscaloosa County DA is Hayes Webb, who is a Republican. (Although an Auburn fan, lol)
Tuscaloosa isn't about to become any sanctuary city, if you want to put it like that.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 11:45 pm to AbuTheMonkey
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Same thing has happened in South Bend - that town was rough as shite when I was there, but crime has gone down quite a bit as the town has gentrified thanks to an infusion of university money, but property crime remains a big problem as students push further and further out into what used to be impoverished areas that had some of the highest crime in the city.
One dynamic that took place here was the April 27, 2011 tornado that ripped through town. Much like New Orleans after Katrina, many of the poorer Tuscaloosa residents got displaced to other areas of town, otherwise middle class areas. IMO, those areas have seen an uptick in petty crimes.
The shooting tonight occurred in the worst area of town, the west side, of which has always been terrible and was not affected during the 2011 tornado.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 11:47 pm to MrLarson
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Honest question
Why does Northport have a police dept separate from Tuscaloosa?
Because Northport is it's own city?
Not hard to comprehend.
Northport has about 25,000 people, which is probably about 15-20th size city in Alabama.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 11:48 pm to East Coast Band
quote:and one fabulous mayor
Same thing has happened in South Bend - that town was rough as shite when I was there, but crime has gone down quite a bit as the town has gentrified thanks to an infusion of university money
Posted on 9/16/19 at 11:49 pm to East Coast Band
That is 8 years removed and the police knew where the bad element went.
They should have done more to protect their officers.
JS.
They should have done more to protect their officers.
JS.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 11:52 pm to MrLarson
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That is 8 years removed and the police knew where the bad element went.
They should have done more to protect their officers.
Perhaps. Not sure what typical warrant issuing protocol is, nor am I sure what this kid was wanted for. Also, not sure if another officer may have been present. Doesn't sound like it, but it didn't say he was alone, did it? Obviously, the officer should not have pursued this thug into the home, but maybe the officer's intent was to just take a couple of steps in and that is when the thug had picked up a gun and shot him in the face.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 11:54 pm to East Coast Band
Article is lacking
Posted on 9/16/19 at 11:55 pm to East Coast Band
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maybe the officer's intent was to just take a couple of steps in
Tactical Errors 101
Either you stay out or go in taking over the room
Posted on 9/16/19 at 11:55 pm to East Coast Band
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Same thing has happened in South Bend - that town was rough as shite when I was there, but crime has gone down quite a bit as the town has gentrified thanks to an infusion of university money, but property crime remains a big problem as students push further and further out into what used to be impoverished areas that had some of the highest crime in the city.
One dynamic that took place here was the April 27, 2011 tornado that ripped through town. Much like New Orleans after Katrina, many of the poorer Tuscaloosa residents got displaced to other areas of town, otherwise middle class areas. IMO, those areas have seen an uptick in petty crimes.
The shooting tonight occurred in the worst area of town, the west side, of which has always been terrible and was not affected during the 2011 tornado.
I was at a football game in the pre-Saban era in T-Town, and two of our crew got mugged coming home from the bars the night before the game. They were beat to hell. I remember hearing about a lot of that sort of thing around that time as well, but I don't think it got much publicity then.
I always compare college towns I visit to South Bend - man, that place was an absolute shithole ten to fifteen years ago. I think most people are still surprised by how rough the town is, as they only think of the university. For an undergrad student body of only 8,000, it was really unbelievable in retrospect just how many violent incidents the school had at that time. Students shot in a drive by, mugged and beaten to hell fairly regularly, so on and so on. I'd put South Bend up against any other well-known college town as far as violent crime goes this side of New Haven, CT and Durham, NC.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 11:56 pm to Paul Allen
quote:I'm sure you do
I think Mayor Pete is great
Posted on 9/16/19 at 11:57 pm to East Coast Band
Where is the Wink Motel?
Posted on 9/16/19 at 11:58 pm to MrLarson
We are a city of 25,000 people. We need our own police department.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 12:03 am to East Coast Band
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Perhaps. Not sure what typical warrant issuing protocol is, nor am I sure what this kid was wanted for. Also, not sure if another officer may have been present. Doesn't sound like it, but it didn't say he was alone, did it? Obviously, the officer should not have pursued this thug into the home, but maybe the officer's intent was to just take a couple of steps in and that is when the thug had picked up a gun and shot him in the face.
Executing warrants is very common and happens all day, every day. Every department is different, but ideally multiple cops are present for any warrant being served. Maybe TPD was tied up and this officer didn’t want to wait for backup. There’s no telling.
I do know, though, that if someone bolts into a house and you go in after them, prepare for a gunfight.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 12:03 am to AbuTheMonkey
Durham, NC is a bad city?
Posted on 9/17/19 at 12:05 am to Iron Lion
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We are a city of 25,000 people. We need our own police department.
Tuscaloosa can't handle that? Does half the population not work or go to school in Tuscaloosa?
Why not Annex them?
Seems strange.
This post was edited on 9/17/19 at 12:07 am
Posted on 9/17/19 at 12:13 am to TigersSEC2010
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Is Tuscaloosa a liberal city/county? If so, there’s your answer.
A mix. Democratic mayor. But there are conservatives on the council. The area it happened can be considered a ghetto area; not a safe part of the city.
But in my opinion the mayor got too focused on running for Governor last year and let the city slide. It is following the foot steps of Jackson, MS.
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