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re: Obama administration issues transgender bathroom mandate to all public schools

Posted on 5/13/16 at 10:44 am to
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 5/13/16 at 10:44 am to
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I would get upset at anyone, boy or girl, just sitting there staring at my daughter while she changes and making her uncomfortable


Well, get ready. With this new imperial edict from Obama, it's going to happen.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 5/13/16 at 10:46 am to
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Well, get ready. With this new imperial edict from Obama, it's going to happen.


maybe...maybe not

its not happening at a rate where these laws have already been in practice that I feel the need to stress about it that much

Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
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Posted on 5/13/16 at 10:47 am to
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You'll change your mind when your 13 year old daughter comes home freaked out over the boy who was in the locker room staring at her while she showered and changed clothes earlier that day.


Sure, because that's likely.

If it can save one is probably the biggest line of bullshite when it comes to passing stupid, unnecessary regulations and laws in the history of mankind.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 5/13/16 at 10:48 am to
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If it can save one is probably the biggest line of bullshite when it comes to passing stupid, unnecessary regulations and laws in the history of mankind.


I just assume all these people are for sweeping gun regulation as well...
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 5/13/16 at 10:48 am to
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do you really not think the school would stop this?



They can't.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 5/13/16 at 10:48 am to
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Well in theory, he can change his identity from day to day, or minute to minute. Identity is completely and utterly arbitrary. Which to me is the biggest danger with recognizing its "legality" or lack of a better word.


Bruce Jenner is a perfect example. He decided one day he "identified" as a women. He never said anything about being attracted to men, in fact he was always clear that he was still attracted to women. He was accepted as a woman by the left, even won a "woman of the year" award.

There's nothing stopping a teen age boy from doing the same exact thing. After all, according to the LGBT crowd, sex, sexuality, and gender are all different things.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 5/13/16 at 10:49 am to
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They can't.


they can and will

don't be so obtuse
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 5/13/16 at 10:50 am to
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maybe...maybe not its not happening at a rate where these laws have already been in practice that I feel the need to stress about it that much


Remember the conversation you and I had not long ago about the grown man in Seattle using the women's locket room at the city pool while a jr. high girl's swim team was in there changing for practice?
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 5/13/16 at 10:51 am to
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they can and will don't be so obtuse


How do you figure they'll be able to do anything about it?
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 5/13/16 at 10:52 am to
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Remember the conversation you and I had not long ago about the grown man in Seattle using the women's locket room at the city pool while a jr. high girl's swim team was in there changing for practice?


I do

and that was one example

and they guy should have been arrested

and he never did sit there while the girls changed because the girls said something and left while he was in there

Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
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Posted on 5/13/16 at 10:52 am to
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How do you figure they'll be able to do anything about it?



There's zero tolerance for sexual harassment in schools, dumbass.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 5/13/16 at 10:54 am to
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How do you figure they'll be able to do anything about it?


a kid changing gender every minute just to enter the restroom is pretty transparent of his intentions and is obviously sexual harassment

I get that common sense is not so readily available these days, but this is pretty common sense

I'm quite certain that the teachers and the students will know who is genuine in these circumstances


This post was edited on 5/13/16 at 10:55 am
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 5/13/16 at 10:59 am to
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There's zero tolerance for sexual harassment in schools, dumbass.


How is it "sexual harassment" when the boy is just exercising the "right" that King Obama just declared he has? Here's how this would work.

1. 13 yr old perv claims he "identifies" as a girl.
2. 13 yr old perv goes into the girls locker room and gets an eyeful of all the cute girls in his class naked.
3. Real 13 yr old girls get freaked out and complain.
4. 13 yr old perv says he/she was doing nothing and just exercising his/her right as a member of the LGBT community.


Only way the 13 yr old perv can be busted is if he starts rubbing one out or snapping pics. Past that, he can just sit back and enjoy the show and there's not a damn thing anyone can do to stop him. He doesn't even have to hide the fact he likes girls since sexuality and gender are "two different things". As long as he "identifies" as a girl, he's in the clear,
Posted by slackster
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Posted on 5/13/16 at 11:02 am to
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There's zero tolerance for sexual harassment in schools, dumbass.


Sure, but what principal or superintendent is going to accuse a potentially transgender male of sexual harassment?

Even if we all know he's a hetero male, why can't he say he identifies as a female and get off without punishment? Who is going to determine what is or isn't transgendered enough?

It goes back to my original statement - how is any of this enforceable?
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
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Posted on 5/13/16 at 11:03 am to
What a strange world we live in.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 5/13/16 at 11:04 am to
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. Past that, he can just sit back and enjoy the show and there's not a damn thing anyone can do to stop him. He doesn't even have to hide the fact he likes girls since sexuality and gender are "two different things". As long as he "identifies" as a girl, he's in the clear,


you fear things that are not going to happen

think of everything else this kid will have to do to make this legit

Posted by slackster
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Posted on 5/13/16 at 11:05 am to
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I get that common sense is not so readily available these days, but this is pretty common sense I'm quite certain that the teachers and the students will know who is genuine in these circumstances


Sure, people will test the policy and give up once they're caught, but in all of the high schools across this country, there will be a George Zimmerman-level psychopath that pushes the envelope and contests that he identifies as a woman despite no "evidence" to support his case. Under the mandate as I understand it I see no way you can refute his claims and/or take away his "right" to the girls' bathroom.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 5/13/16 at 11:06 am to
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Sure, but what principal or superintendent is going to accuse a potentially transgender male of sexual harassment? Even if we all know he's a hetero male, why can't he say he identifies as a female and get off without punishment? Who is going to determine what is or isn't transgendered enough? It goes back to my original statement - how is any of this enforceable?


Like I said, the only way a perv can be busted as such is if he starts masturbating, trying to touch, or take pictures of the girls. But he'll be free to look (and store away the mental images of the naked girls for later) all he wants.

And for those who don't think this will happen, you're only fooling yourself. Teen age boys have been trying to sneak peeks at naked teen age girls as long as there have been things called locker rooms. All this rule from Obama does is make it easier for enterprising young pervs to do so.
Posted by slackster
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Posted on 5/13/16 at 11:06 am to
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think of everything else this kid will have to do to make this legit


If he says he identifies as a woman, and his parents go along with it, what else needs to be proven? Doesn't this mandate eliminate the need for any "official" designation as transgendered?
Posted by uway
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Posted on 5/13/16 at 11:07 am to
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If it can save one is probably the biggest line of bull shite when it comes to passing stupid, unnecessary regulations and laws in the history of mankind


You are turning reality on its head. Obama and progressives are pushing regulations on us (never voted on) to save the feelings of an extremely small portion of the population.

We don't need or want any laws or regulations. We want status quo.

It's not "cool" to not care about shite like this.
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