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re: Nursing home staff stands around laughing while WWII vet lays dying

Posted on 11/18/17 at 4:36 pm to
Posted by tgrbaitn08
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Posted on 11/18/17 at 4:36 pm to
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This is absolutely one of the most disgusting things I've ever seen.


Then you should get out more
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 11/18/17 at 4:37 pm to
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It could have been handled differently but I don't think it's a cause for outrage





What the frick is wrong with you? A patient is laying there struggling to breathe, is begging for help, calls six times, they finally come but instead of doing anything they dick around laughing for a fricking hour while he lays suffering before they decide to bother taking the effort to call 911.

You think that's OK? What if that was your dad or granddad in that bed? You'd be fine with his caretakers laughing while he was struggling to breathe?
Posted by LCA131
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Posted on 11/18/17 at 4:41 pm to
Maybe they thought he was related to you and was destined to come back?
Posted by sugar71
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Posted on 11/18/17 at 4:47 pm to
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It's easy to sit here and judge, but nursing home workers witness death daily. It's literally a place where you go to die.

It could have been handled differently but I don't think it's a cause for outrage



This. But I refused to watch the video.


Many cultures see the Nursing Homes as a foreign concept. They think "Why isn't he provided for at home surrounded by loved ones" ? His children whom he thought would provide for him just as he did for them as helpless children?

Instead they dump you off at a facility where people have to treat this with some semblance of emotional distance or they burn out. Or break down.

No way I click that video. Poor guy.



This post was edited on 11/18/17 at 5:10 pm
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 11/18/17 at 4:49 pm to
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Maybe they thought he was related to you and was destined to come back?



Really? Is that the best you could come up with?

Posted by PearlJam
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Member since Aug 2014
13908 posts
Posted on 11/18/17 at 4:50 pm to
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Man, did you come to this thread just to set an example of how to overreact?
How did I overreact?
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
70143 posts
Posted on 11/18/17 at 4:50 pm to
Doesn't make it ok to ignore this man while he's dying

Nursing homes are a gold mine for Medicare fraud
Posted by LCA131
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Posted on 11/18/17 at 4:51 pm to
Those cultures are thinking correctly. We don't handle death well. Candidly, it has become BIG business. Look at the dollars spent for the final 3 months of life. Stats are available.

Keep them alive, keep them alive! For what?

Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
70143 posts
Posted on 11/18/17 at 4:53 pm to
Restore some Quality of life for one which should be the goal
What about his right to live
This post was edited on 11/18/17 at 4:55 pm
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28650 posts
Posted on 11/18/17 at 5:01 pm to
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So it is ok for paid health care workers to disregard patients who aren't veterans?


No, but its ignorant to pretend that certain details don't make a story more or less tragic.

Imagine this being a serial killer, or a 5 year old girl suffering from leukemia, etc.

There's tragic irony with a WWII vet who fought for someone's life and freedoms, having that same someone laugh as they die.

It'd be no different from a story where a charity worker who's devote their life to feeding the homeless having a homeless person watch them dying in the streets and laughing. Obviously it'd be tragic even if the person dying in the streets wasn't a charity worker, but its ignorant to deny that there's an extra layer is tragedy there.
Posted by PearlJam
NotBeardEaves
Member since Aug 2014
13908 posts
Posted on 11/18/17 at 5:03 pm to
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No, but its ignorant to pretend that certain details don't make a story more or less tragic.
So WWII vet is more tragic than other nursing home patient? I disagree.

Eta: most likely a story fed to the attorney suing the company to create media pressure for a larger settlement.
This post was edited on 11/18/17 at 5:40 pm
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28650 posts
Posted on 11/18/17 at 5:05 pm to
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So WWII very is more traffic than other nursing home patient? I disagree.


You should probably go through a mental health check, you're probably autistic if you don't understand what I said.
Posted by PearlJam
NotBeardEaves
Member since Aug 2014
13908 posts
Posted on 11/18/17 at 5:07 pm to
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you're probably autistic
So... More or less tragic if paid health care workers laugh at me while I die?
Posted by LCA131
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 11/18/17 at 5:09 pm to
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Quality of life


Can occur when one is living, not merely surviving. We can make the body function indefinitely, but that is not living.

We should live life a bit more fully when we are able and,'go gently into that good night'.

Imo
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28650 posts
Posted on 11/18/17 at 5:12 pm to
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So... More or less tragic if paid health care workers laugh at me while I die?


Exactly the same, no difference at all from a serial rapist going through the same thing.
Posted by LCA131
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Posted on 11/18/17 at 5:13 pm to
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Really? Is that the best you could come up with?



How original, 08!
Posted by PearlJam
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Member since Aug 2014
13908 posts
Posted on 11/18/17 at 5:13 pm to
So autist = serial rapist?

Damn bro.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28650 posts
Posted on 11/18/17 at 5:14 pm to
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So autist = serial rapist?


Everyone is equal so its equally as tragic, wasn't that your stance?
Posted by sugar71
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 11/18/17 at 5:16 pm to
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Doesn't make it ok to ignore this man while he's dying

Nursing homes are a gold mine for Medicare fraud




Swear on my life that's not what I was implying. I refused to watch anyway so I can't comment on their behavior.

My very 1st job was in a Nursing Home / Hospital & the entire concept of a Nursing Home mostly upsets me. Coming from someone who loves/ respect the elderly.
Posted by sugar71
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 11/18/17 at 5:24 pm to
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Those cultures are thinking correctly. We don't handle death well. Candidly, it has become BIG business. Look at the dollars spent for the final 3 months of life. Stats are available.

Keep them alive, keep them alive! For what?



This.

It's Easier to pack "Pa Pa" bags & ship him off than to allow him to die around people he assumed would take him in or take care of him someday.

The Nursing Home gets the checks from his Social Security, disability , pension or whatever assets & the family gets to enjoy life without being burdened by him.



I despise Nursing Homes & their prevalence. And still not clicking that video.



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