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re: Nurses at University Medical Center vote to unionize, a Louisiana first
Posted on 12/11/23 at 9:10 pm to TDTOM
Posted on 12/11/23 at 9:10 pm to TDTOM
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Collective bargaining is legalized extortion
Free association is one of the basic hallmarks of American society. It speaks directly back to our founding fathers.
Forced union membership is bullshite.
But voluntary organization is something that all conservatives should support.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 9:12 pm to LSUFanHouston
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But voluntary organization is something that all conservatives should support.
Neo-cons are brainwashed that business is good and individual is bad.
They don't give a frick about the middle class or the individual. They think their 7% return is more important than their 15% benefits increase.
This post was edited on 12/11/23 at 9:13 pm
Posted on 12/11/23 at 9:14 pm to fightin tigers
Unions aren’t a conservative concept a free market/society says if you don’t like it, go elsewhere or adapt. Don’t understand the neocon part of your post in relation to topic.
This post was edited on 12/11/23 at 9:15 pm
Posted on 12/11/23 at 9:14 pm to fightin tigers
"Excuse me Nurse but you missed my vein and the needle is still in my arm. How much longer is your smoke break?"
Posted on 12/11/23 at 9:16 pm to Nynna11
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As of 2018, the percentage of nurses that have graduated with a Bachelor of Science degree in nursing (BSN) or higher is about 57%
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Approximately 18% of nurses hold a graduate level degree
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Nynna11

Posted on 12/11/23 at 9:16 pm to fightin tigers
Momentoftruth also tries to cite how it would affect his Healthcare when his care is free and subsidized 100% by the taxpayer using the VA. He should opt out and do the right thing, which is to get off the government tit...
Posted on 12/11/23 at 9:16 pm to momentoftruth87
Unions as they operate today because of corporate HRs? Agree with you.
Corporations have fricked themselves with crippling HRs that do harm to everyone but themselves.
Corporations have fricked themselves with crippling HRs that do harm to everyone but themselves.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 9:18 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
And you can get a BSN a year after completion of nursing program at a community college. It’s literally taking gen eds above a 200 level.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 9:18 pm to MrLSU
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Excuse me Nurse but you missed my vein and the needle is still in my arm. How much longer is your smoke break?"
Absolutely no way a union hand starts a job without knowing it can be completed without a break.
If it is work until completion that is after the 8 and on doubletime.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 9:18 pm to Sao
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Momentoftruth also tries to cite how it would affect his Healthcare when his care is free and subsidized 100% by the taxpayer using the VA. He should opt out and do the right thing, which is to get off the government tit...
Sure it’s subsidized but I didn’t get it for free you libtard
Posted on 12/11/23 at 9:18 pm to momentoftruth87
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a free market/society says if you don’t like it, go elsewhere or adapt.
A free market allows for free association without restrictions.
That is very much an adaptation.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 9:19 pm to momentoftruth87
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And you can get a BSN a year after completion of nursing program at a community college. It’s literally taking gen eds above a 200 level.
Curious. What is your definition of a graduate degree?
Nevermind, see it wasn't you that said that.
This post was edited on 12/11/23 at 9:21 pm
Posted on 12/11/23 at 9:19 pm to momentoftruth87
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Sure it’s subsidized but I didn’t get it for free you libtard
Just using your logic, trash monster.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 9:20 pm to fightin tigers
Masters after bachelors and beyond. I have a Masters in Econ.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 9:23 pm to momentoftruth87
Did you take out loans or was that given to you by the government as well
Posted on 12/11/23 at 9:23 pm to LSUFanHouston
So many of you guys don’t realize that many of nurses’ complaints are not about the money, but about the cost cutting that hospitals do that affects patient and staff safety.
There is no way to provide safe and effective care for patients with the staffing models that most corporate owned hospitals impose. And then when bad things happen, because ancillary staff cannot be supervised adequately or there is not enough qualified staff, guess who the scapegoat is….the registered nurse. As an RN hospital supervisor, I can assure you that all levels of nursing staff are asked to do more than is safely possible. And I have witnessed this at many hospitals across the country. My sick family members are never left alone in a hospital without another family member as an advocate. Something has to change and the answer is not socialized medicine.
There is no way to provide safe and effective care for patients with the staffing models that most corporate owned hospitals impose. And then when bad things happen, because ancillary staff cannot be supervised adequately or there is not enough qualified staff, guess who the scapegoat is….the registered nurse. As an RN hospital supervisor, I can assure you that all levels of nursing staff are asked to do more than is safely possible. And I have witnessed this at many hospitals across the country. My sick family members are never left alone in a hospital without another family member as an advocate. Something has to change and the answer is not socialized medicine.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 9:25 pm to Sao
GI Bill and I also have my own healthcare in addition to my VA. You could have done the same thing
military service isn’t for everyone though.

Posted on 12/11/23 at 9:26 pm to Nynna11
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but about the cost cutting that hospitals
Like forcing a nurse to take a vacation day because they didn't have a census to keep the nurse for the night scheduled weeks in advance.
Hospitals being ok with paying their inflated boards less would be a start.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 9:28 pm to momentoftruth87
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If you owned a business do you want employees demanding shite then having leverage over you? Healthcare economics is a bit different of a beast but my post was in general relation to businesses and unions.
I have a friend that lives in Dallas who is high in hospital admininistration. Lives in a $3mm house with $2mm in cars in the garage but nurses wanting to have better working conditions is the problem?
Posted on 12/11/23 at 9:30 pm to achenator
Class envy is not a good look.
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