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re: NPR runs hit piece on Gandhi

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Posted by Centinel
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Posted on 10/3/19 at 10:41 am to
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When we build them up to be myths, the reality can't live up to it and people get upset that the myths aren't real. It's actually a good article:


But that's not what happens today. Everything good done by a person is tossed out the window once the cult of social justice finds something they don't like.

There is no "he's flawed, but he did much good" anymore. Now it's simply "he did X, therefore he must be destroyed and anything good he's done is invalidated."

This post was edited on 10/3/19 at 10:44 am
Posted by i am dan
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Posted on 10/3/19 at 10:41 am to
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NPR does actual reporting and not an opinion piece. Fox-tards don't know how to handle it.


You can't be that obtuse can you?

I mean we can link hours of your "tv news" to blow you post out of the water if you like.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
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Posted on 10/3/19 at 10:43 am to
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NPR is reporting a movement that is happening.



And they are very selective in which movements they report. And strangely enough, all the movements they do report all follow the same ideological slant....

It's almost like they're pushing a narrative.

Posted by Space Cadet
Member since Sep 2019
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Posted on 10/3/19 at 10:43 am to
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But that's not what happens today. Everything good done by a person is tossed out the window once the cult of social justice finds something they don't like.

There is no "he's flawed, but he did much good" anymore. Now it's simply "he did X, therefore he must be destroyed."




Nowhere in the article does it say that civil disobedience is bullshite because Ghandi was racist in his twenties. It's an argument against his personal canonization not against his accomplishments.
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 10/3/19 at 10:43 am to
This is one of the moments where people freak out over the publication. Yet, completely ignore the fact that people have raised numerous questions about the subject over time.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 10/3/19 at 10:44 am to
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I mean we can link hours of your "tv news" to blow you post out of the water if you like.


NPR is one of the sacred tenets of SJWs. They melt at any criticism of their little propaganda channel.
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 10/3/19 at 10:44 am to
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And they are very selective in which movements they report. And strangely enough, all the movements they do report all follow the same ideological slant....

It's almost like they're pushing a narrative.



You act like they are the only folks following this line.
Posted by Animal
Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 10/3/19 at 10:44 am to
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Or maybe we shouldn't see history in categories like "good" and "evil". Historical figures are humans, they're flawed and complicated just like all of us. When we build them up to be myths, the reality can't live up to it and people get upset that the myths aren't real. It's actually a good article:



I mostly agree with this sentiment but I think that it is also important to have respect for these types of historical figures and teach kids to believe in the positive works their lives produced.

While the academic mind might seek out the truth of the whole story and be able to separate the man from the myth without personally devaluing the accomplishments; most people will hear the entire story and largely blow-off lessons that should be take-aways because he is not the saint they originally perceived him/her to be.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 10/3/19 at 10:46 am to
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This is one of the moments where people freak out over the publication.


If you read the article, while it has some factual material, it's still click bait

It's written to elicit a specific reaction, not create thought.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
45911 posts
Posted on 10/3/19 at 10:47 am to
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You act like they are the only folks following this line.


I am?

Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
31611 posts
Posted on 10/3/19 at 10:47 am to
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racist


I'm so tired of this word. Groups of people need to be able to call out the garbage in their own race and not have problem with other races doing it for them.

See these people?



Yeah, white trash. I have no problem calling them that, nor do I have a problem with any other race calling them that.

Get over yourself. You people are unbearable.
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 10/3/19 at 10:47 am to
NPR should've had their funding pulled a decade ago.
Posted by JBeam
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68377 posts
Posted on 10/3/19 at 10:50 am to
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It's written to elicit a specific reaction, not create thought.

I don't think these two things are mutually exclusive.

Also, as far as other provocative articles go on the subject of Gandhi. This NPR piece is mild at best.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298489 posts
Posted on 10/3/19 at 10:51 am to
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While the academic mind might seek out the truth of the whole story


It seems to me the academic mind would certainly understand values change dramatically over time and people can't always be judged by the flavor or the day.
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 10/3/19 at 10:51 am to
is that Nickleback or FGL? The "it's all about the music" poster puzzles me.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/3/19 at 10:52 am to
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But that's not what happens today. Everything good done by a person is tossed out the window once the cult of social justice finds something they don't like.

Again do you think that's what Penn and Teller was doing in 2005 when they did they same piece?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/3/19 at 10:52 am to
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This is one of the moments where people freak out over the publication. Yet, completely ignore the fact that people have raised numerous questions about the subject over time.



It's because they're mentally weak
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 10/3/19 at 10:53 am to
He wasn't a saint. Neither was Mother Theresa. Neither was MLK
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 10/3/19 at 10:53 am to
So Gandhi was not perfect, not sure he claimed to be. Everyone else made him into a saint......he just was not interested in watching people die in trying to achieve Indian Independence from the British Crown.

The dude pissed and shite just like everyone else
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
45911 posts
Posted on 10/3/19 at 10:54 am to
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Again do you think that's what Penn and Teller was doing in 2005 when they did they same piece?



I don't know, why don't you link the piece and I'll let you know?
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