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re: Nobody wants to work anymore

Posted on 9/6/22 at 11:43 pm to
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
61071 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 11:43 pm to
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It's pretty obvious to everyone but you.

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I'm just restating things you have said yourself.
Do quote where I've said I've mistreated any employee.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29003 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 11:43 pm to
The logic holds. They probably would have left for a cut in pay. You come across as a shitty person on here, not surprising you would be shitty to work for.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 11:44 pm to
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
61071 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 11:46 pm to
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The logic holds. They probably would have left for a cut in pay.
What logic? Employees do crazy isht all the time. That was the point.

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You come across as a shitty person on here, not surprising you would be shitty to work for.
My employee relationships say otherwise. But that was a nice try. You've never worked a for me either. More stores in your head.

Fun! This is suddenly all about me. How flattering.
This post was edited on 9/6/22 at 11:47 pm
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 11:47 pm to
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My employee relationships say otherwise


Right, the ones that leave for a quarter.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
61071 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 11:48 pm to
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Right, the ones that leave for a quarter.
It was one employee I supervised. At the time I supervised over 40 people.

Keep up the story writing. It's getting good!
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29003 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 11:48 pm to
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Do quote where I've said I've mistreated any employee.
For one thing you're acting like you did them some big favor with a $5 raise which evidently still didn't match the starting pay elsewhere. You clearly treat them as expenses, don't be surprised when they feel expendable.
Posted by Slagathor
Makin' jokes about your teeny tiny
Member since Jul 2007
38830 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 11:49 pm to
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My employee relationships say otherwise.


Jumping ship for +1%?
Posted by NOLAVOL16
Member since Jan 2022
898 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 11:52 pm to
I had a trucking company tell me once that there are a significant number of drivers who hop companies every 6 months and some have worked for this company multiple different times. They leave with notice so no hard feelings.

Reason? It takes the IRS that long to track them down for alimony and child support. When they start getting docked, they bail.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
61071 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 11:53 pm to
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For one thing you're acting like you did them some big favor with a $5 raise which evidently still didn't match the starting pay elsewhere.
You're still making up stories. He came to use with an offer of $3.50/hr over what we were paying him. We gave him $5.00/hr and said "done, we value you and want you to stay.". He accepted. Three weeks later he drug up for another quarter. Clearly I'm the a-hole. OK. If you say so.

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You clearly treat them as expenses, don't be surprised when they feel expendable.
See above.
This post was edited on 9/6/22 at 11:53 pm
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
61071 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 11:54 pm to
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Jumping ship for +1%?
Clearly he was a dedicated, asset. After getting a 25% raise, I'm clearly the one with not valuing the relationshp.
This post was edited on 9/6/22 at 11:59 pm
Posted by Slagathor
Makin' jokes about your teeny tiny
Member since Jul 2007
38830 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 11:59 pm to
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After getting a 25% I'm the problem for not valuing the employees.


You lost the bid for their labor. Should have thrown more pizza parties.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 11:59 pm to
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I've given pipe drafters a $5/hr raise, only to have them leave 3 weeks later for an extra $0.25/hr


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was one employee I supervised. At the time I supervised over 40 people.


Hmmm..funny how the case went from plural to singular as people have pointed out what an a-hole you appear to be.
This post was edited on 9/7/22 at 12:00 am
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
61071 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 12:00 am to
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You lost the bid for their labor. Should have thrown more pizza parties.
clearly.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
61071 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 12:02 am to
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Hmmm..funny how the case went from plural to singular
Oooohhhh you caught me. Clearly proves what a terrible employer I am. Guess what.. .sometime I leave dangling participles, too. Golly I'm an arsehole.

I mean... I'm far from the only employer this has ever happened too. But, I can't argue against the stories yall want to make up in your heads.

Tell me a bedtime story? It's getting late.

This post was edited on 9/7/22 at 12:04 am
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29003 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 12:05 am to
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You're still making up stories. He came to use with an offer of $3.50/hr over what we were paying him. We gave him $5.00/hr and said "done, we value you and want you to stay.". He accepted. Three weeks later he drug up for another quarter. Clearly I'm the a-hole.
Sounds like he wised up and figured out why you gave more than his ask. You were severely underpaying and just letting it ride until he had enough. He found a place that actually values their employees instead of just giving lip service.

Again, if you treat people as expenses, don't be surprised when they feel expendable.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 12:05 am to
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I mean... I'm far from the only employer this has ever happened too.


Here we go, more vague statements that won't be backed up with any actual examples.

You just accidentally reinforced my original statement of there not being many good companies to work for with that claim, but hell, I'll give you a pass on that one.
This post was edited on 9/7/22 at 12:07 am
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
61071 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 12:12 am to
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Sounds like he wised up and figured out why you gave more than his ask. You were severely underpaying and just letting it ride until he had enough.
Nope. We knew the market precisely, because so many of those guys work contract. We had hired him direct from his contract position with a uplift 6 months before this. So he was already above market. Plus 25%.

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Again, if you treat people as expenses, don't be surprised when they feel expendable.
He didn't live up to being anything other than an expense.
This post was edited on 9/7/22 at 12:13 am
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
61071 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 12:14 am to
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Here we go, more vague statements that won't be backed up with any actual examples.
I'm also not oging to explain the 1st law of thermodynamics to you. Doesn't mean it doesn't exist.


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You just accidentally reinforced my original statement of there not being many good companies to work for with that claim,
Like I said, good companies don't (errr... continue to) make those mistakes. I know I learned a lesson.
This post was edited on 9/7/22 at 12:16 am
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 12:17 am to
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I'm also not oging to explain the 1st law of thermodynamics to you. Doesn't mean it doesn't exist.


The mother of all deflections.

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I know I learned a lesson.


The wrong one apparently, but it's your business, not mine.
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