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re: New TOPS award approved for high-performing students
Posted on 6/25/25 at 10:20 am to sidewalkside
Posted on 6/25/25 at 10:20 am to sidewalkside
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Good luck enforcing anything like that
Not hard at all. If you don’t have Louisiana taxable income, you have to pay it back as a loan. If you move back to the state, you get tax credits in the amount you paid.
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Posted on 6/25/25 at 10:21 am to DrrTiger
God this state is out of touch.
You’re gouging everyone else. You can subsidize the most promising students in whole.
You make over a 3.5 and a 31 you get free in state tuition.
Thats it. That would keep a ton of people in state. Yes I know that a lot of people making that high of Act scores already come from well to do families. But there are some really smart people in this state from not the greatest families. And they typically bolt.
You’re gouging everyone else. You can subsidize the most promising students in whole.
You make over a 3.5 and a 31 you get free in state tuition.
Thats it. That would keep a ton of people in state. Yes I know that a lot of people making that high of Act scores already come from well to do families. But there are some really smart people in this state from not the greatest families. And they typically bolt.
Posted on 6/25/25 at 10:23 am to uscpuke
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probably should have some commitment to work in Louisiana as the top students will still leave for better jobs and quality of life elsewhere.
Louisiana's job economy isn't diverse enough for this.
Posted on 6/25/25 at 10:23 am to GRTiger
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Louisiana's job economy isn't diverse enough for this.
Well frick it, just waste more money then
Posted on 6/25/25 at 10:25 am to DrrTiger
I don’t understand this new Excellence Tier. They pay UP TO $12k with no stipend?? The TOPS Honors Award already pays for full tuition ($12,472 at LSU) plus $800.
So the new Excellence Tier is worth less than the Honors Tier for LSU students??
So the new Excellence Tier is worth less than the Honors Tier for LSU students??
Posted on 6/25/25 at 10:26 am to EvrybodysAllAmerican
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This makes a lot of sense. Whats the point of LA taxpayers paying for education to people that will move out of state? Should be like the military. We pay 4 years of school, you owe us 4 years of work in the state.
ROI for students would be terrible. Not worth the scholarship.
Posted on 6/25/25 at 10:26 am to uscpuke
I’ve always said, any student who receives TOPS should be required to be on the LA state tax rolls for a minimum of 1 year/ each year they take the funds. If they leave the state before meeting that requirement, there should be some type of prorated repayment. (basically the prorated amt. becomes an interest free loan repayment) The brain drain would hopefully slow down considerably. As soon as we graduated, we moved to TX.
Posted on 6/25/25 at 10:29 am to ATrillionaire
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ROI for students would be terrible. Not worth the scholarship.
Don’t take it then. It’s welfare as currently constructed
*I used TOPS and immediately left the state, I just understand what it actually is
Posted on 6/25/25 at 10:31 am to DrrTiger
My in-laws have a family member who had a perfect test score, and was a National Merit finalist. LSU offered him very little, so he took a full ride to an out-of-state SEC school.
Posted on 6/25/25 at 10:34 am to LSUtgrboy
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My in-laws have a family member who had a perfect test score, and was a National Merit finalist. LSU offered him very little, so he took a full ride to an out-of-state SEC school.
Not surprised at all by this.
Posted on 6/25/25 at 10:37 am to REB BEER
Thats another stipulation i'd support. Basically make it a loan from the state. Loan is forgiven if you 1.Finish school and 2. Stay in the state for work the same number of years that the state paid for your school. If not you start payments like any other student loan.
Posted on 6/25/25 at 10:37 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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Don’t take it then. It’s welfare as currently constructed
*I used TOPS and immediately left the state, I just understand what it actually is
It isn't welfare. Its an incentive that a failing state commits to students on the basis of hope and prayer these students will one day fix the mess they're born into.
And they wouldn't take it. If they did, they I'd question their intellect.
Posted on 6/25/25 at 10:41 am to ATrillionaire
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It isn't welfare.
It’s given to people who have contributed little to nothing to the tax base and it’s not strings attached. It’s absolutely welfare, that doesn’t even necessarily bad, but it’s welfare, no question about that.
Posted on 6/25/25 at 10:47 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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It’s given to people who have contributed little to nothing to the tax base and it’s not strings attached. It’s absolutely welfare, that doesn’t even necessarily bad, but it’s welfare, no question about that.
I see the state as having incentive. I don’t know what a state (not politician) gains by doling out welfare.
Posted on 6/25/25 at 10:48 am to ATrillionaire
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I don’t know what a state (not politician) gains by doling out welfare.
I agree. What does the state gain by paying $50k to educate a student that then moves to another state and never contributes to the Louisiana economy?
Posted on 6/25/25 at 10:48 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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It’s given to people who have contributed little to nothing to the tax base
Their parents have.
Posted on 6/25/25 at 10:48 am to DrrTiger
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Their parents have.
It’s not a program for their parents, it’s a program for the student
Posted on 6/25/25 at 10:49 am to DrrTiger
Now just awaiting the bottoms award for high-performing LSUGBTQIA QB’s in honor of Burrow
Posted on 6/25/25 at 10:49 am to Mingo Was His NameO
Nothing. But they may keep some. Aren't getting any with stipulations.
Posted on 6/25/25 at 10:51 am to Cantstandya
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I don’t understand this new Excellence Tier. They pay UP TO $12k with no stipend?? The TOPS Honors Award already pays for full tuition ($12,472 at LSU) plus $800.
Current TOPS is $7500/year at LSU. It doesn’t cover the whole of tuition + fees.
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