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re: New Orleans dilettante Mayor proposes $850 per float fee on parades...

Posted on 8/21/26 at 10:04 am to
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
80741 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 10:04 am to
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Last time someone did that, a poster questioned it and still didn’t believe it.


The numbers come out every year as well.

I think everyone sees the huge crowds and just assume tax dollars are rolling in from people who buy their supplies out of the city then come watch a free show. Restaurants/Bars along the route make good money but even if it is a 10% tax rate the numbers just don't add up like some think.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
42074 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 11:15 am to
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Another issue is fatigue I think people are getting tired of Mardi Gras, private businesses are taking the fun out of Mardi Gras by charging expensive rates for parking. The street closures and towing companies that make bank from parking on the street can spoil the fun of Mardi Gras or any event in the city.


Like everything rise in this country, a bifurcation is happening.

The wealthy people live near the routes, pay for setups, private access etc.

The poor just wander over and push their way in.

The middle class gets annoyed with the entitlement from the wealthy and the audacity of the poor, and just head out of town.

I grew up going to as many parades as I could. I loved taking my kids.

Last year I only attended the parades my kids marched in, plus Endymion, because the kids really wanted to go to that one.

I don’t think I missed anything.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
42074 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 11:21 am to
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Show your work.


LINK

City government tax revenue (not counting what goes to the state, school board, RTA, etc) is $7 million

City government expense (OT for withers including police and fire), infrastructure, fuel. Equipment, paying out of town providers, etc is $11 million

School board and RTA make bank with no expenses.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
23557 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 11:28 am to
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t’s a math problem

It’s costing the city more than the tax revenue it provides.


I just can't bring myself to believe this. Someone doing that math isn't taking into account the full picture of economic impact to the city. All that spending gets taxed in some way. Bars, restaurants, hotels, airbnbs, stores, ubers, taxis, tourism tours, zoo, museums, etc.

They all spike insanely high.

I think a Tulane professor did a study that says it's almost a billion a year in positive economic impact to New Orleans.
Posted by GWfool
Member since Aug 2010
2442 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 11:28 am to
This right after the City Council unilaterally moved and shortened routes for some of the best parades without giving the Krewes a chance to pay for additional security on their own, which they offered to do. Taking these parades off of Magazine street this was completely unfair and now you're going to float something like this idea. Ridiculous and circular logic being used to act is if it is not a GIANT economic benefit to the city.
Posted by GetMeOutOfHere
Member since Aug 2018
1193 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 11:38 am to
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According to Tulane’s report, the city and its entities made a profit of nearly $8 million on Carnival in 2023. But if you only consider City Hall, it made less than $7 million and spent nearly $11 million providing security, sanitation and other services.


Why is City Hall entitled to a profit?
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
80741 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 11:40 am to
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Why is City Hall entitled to a profit?


Bitch, taxpayers are City Hall.

Just break even means it is all for nothing.
This post was edited on 8/21/26 at 11:41 am
Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
18203 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 11:48 am to
The previous mayor used to treat Endymion as a nuisance and a cash cow to be exploited rather than a valued entity that has a massive positive economic impact on the city. I was hoping that this mayor would have more sense.
And this law will have no impact on Endymion because we can afford $850 per float. It is the smaller krews that will be punished.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
42074 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 11:57 am to
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Why is City Hall entitled to a profit?


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the city and its entities


See my earlier explanation

This includes all the agencies outside city hall
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
42074 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 12:03 pm to
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It is the smaller krews that will be punished.


City requires 14 floats. Sone smaller parades are spreading floats thin to get there.

This might encourage smaller parades to merge which is a good thing.
Posted by Geauxzilla
Member since Feb 2026
59 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 11:08 pm to
Want to nickel and dime the krewes but they sure will waste money on those Gallier hall parties. DJs , food , etc.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
80741 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 11:09 pm to
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Want to nickel and dime the krewes but they sure will waste money on those Gallier hall parties. DJs , food , etc.


Didn't everyone get mad that they cut the compensation last year for Gallier Hall and slashed the funding to almost nothing?

Proof that people with bitch about anything.
This post was edited on 8/21/26 at 11:10 pm
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
18134 posts
Posted on 8/22/26 at 7:25 am to
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I was hoping that this mayor would have more sense.

You're talking about a mayor of New Orleans. Where do you get such fancy ideas?
Posted by GetMeOutOfHere
Member since Aug 2018
1193 posts
Posted on 8/22/26 at 7:31 am to
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Bitch, taxpayers are City Hall.


Calm down.

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Just break even means it is all for nothing


Not once until now have I heard City Hall used as an economic marker for how well Mardi Gras does in the city, and now you're telling me it's all that matters.

But hey, you want to kill one of the few golden geese in the city, knock yourself out.
This post was edited on 8/22/26 at 7:33 am
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
13808 posts
Posted on 8/22/26 at 7:44 am to
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Why is City Hall entitled to a profit?


City Hall I don’t think is looking to profit from a zero sum game.

They are trying to balance the books and bank extra revenue in good financial times so it has cash when revenue doesn’t necessarily come in.


The big issue with most governments is that they finance operations like most individuals paycheck to paycheck. They get paid once a year with property taxes and lease payments, monthly with sales taxes, and other taxes as they come for special events, fines levied against violators, or if people apply for permits. They also get money from the Federal government and state government, sprinkled in when projects are completed or allotted money.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
42074 posts
Posted on 8/22/26 at 3:51 pm to
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Want to nickel and dime the krewes but they sure will waste money on those Gallier hall parties. DJs , food , etc.


I thought in 2026 this was mostly private money donations
Posted by FOBW
N.O.
Member since Sep 2016
540 posts
Posted on 8/22/26 at 5:52 pm to
All of these krewes should use this as an opportunity to decide why they exist. Social club, benevolent society or they just want a parade. The city is not going to make it any easier from here.

I don’t see how the parade benefits the krewe other than member recruitment and creating an excuse for a giant party.

If I were still in a krewe, I’d vote to cancel the parade and redirect that money to a cool clubhouse or worthwhile cause.

I assume momus and comus are still going strong just without having to put up with the city’s bs.
This post was edited on 8/22/26 at 5:57 pm
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
80741 posts
Posted on 8/22/26 at 6:08 pm to
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I don’t see how the parade benefits the krewe other than member recruitment and creating an excuse for a giant party


Pretty much. The amount of people who would be part of a social club without some sort of task is pretty low.

Even Comus and Momus still parade just under a different name.
This post was edited on 8/22/26 at 6:10 pm
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
21852 posts
Posted on 8/22/26 at 6:43 pm to
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Moreno is just another grinning ignorant politician

Show me a politician who doesn’t have their hand out and I’ll show you a politician with no hands.
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