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re: New MTV show publicly shames white people for “What they've done to America”

Posted on 7/9/15 at 10:56 pm to
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 10:56 pm to
Will Obama cry out of one eye? Because he's a half white decedent of slave owners?
Posted by RDRGeaux09
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 10:56 pm to
This is what the majority of black professionals go through. I work in the medical research field. I'm one of two black people that work in my area. My bosses are white, most of my co workers are white. To advance, I can't say what I'm really thinking or really voice my opinion about it. If in the break room, their talking about current events, I either don't go in or I sit there and bear whatever ignorance and drivel they spill because, it's not a good look for me to voice my opinion. Then I get looked at as the militant black man and wheel gets spun against me.
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 10:58 pm to
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NEWSFLASH: just because you "spend time" with them -- work, school, your work flag football team, doesnt mean you know them. That really doesnt mean much at all.


What in the wide wide world of sports is going on here?
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 10:59 pm to
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There's no way you live in New Iberia if any of this is true.



Who said I live in New Iberia?

I'm on the outdoor board.



I have three black friends.

In all honesty, one is 60 years my senior and taught me quite a bit about race. Specifically, it matters less what you call a man than how you treat him.

My grandfather used the N word to address people, even people who he knew and liked. I was mortified when I was young and he referred to his friend as that word. This old man asked how old I was, and I was 6 or 7 at the time. He said he had known my grandfather since 1928, 10x longer than I had been alive. And in those 60 years he said my grandfather hadn't treated him any differently because of his race. He used the word the way younger black guys do now.

This old man said while my grandather used a word most weren't fond of, he had done without on more than one occasion to help him. Just as he did for his white friends. He pointed out the priest wouldn't give him communion on his tongue, but claimed to love everyone the same.

Idk, I treat every self respecting person the same. If a good white/black family moves in, that's fine by me. If trash mmoves in, the fact that we both lack pigmentation won't save thwm from my disgust.
This post was edited on 7/9/15 at 11:14 pm
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 11:02 pm to
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To advance, I can't say what I'm really thinking or really voice my opinion about it.


What opinions are you really thinking that you can't express?
Posted by Tiger1242
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 11:04 pm to
It's fricking infowars, this shite is not real.

You people actually believe this shite?
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 11:04 pm to
Apparently, they tell Tulane med students that most employers have flag football teams.
Posted by RDRGeaux09
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 11:12 pm to
That most of my co workers are really ignorant bigots. You can't really say that without getting looked at crazy. But I'm one the "good blacks" you know who'd never be caught up with those "thugs". That's when you just have to grit your teeth and just go back to your work. I'm just lucky enough to have another black guy working with me. Because you can't just tell Dave in accounting to eff himself when he says shite like that. But at least I can get off my chest with someone who understands rather than just holding it in
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 11:14 pm to
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That most of my co workers are really ignorant bigots. You can't really say that without getting looked at crazy


Correct you can't walk into a room full of people and call them all ignorant bigots without context or explanation or a conversation and not expect consequences.

That has nothing to do with race.

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But I'm one the "good blacks" you know who'd never be caught up with those "thugs".


I have no idea why you put those words in quotes. Do you wish you lived in poverty and belonged to a gang of criminals?
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 11:15 pm to
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Because you can't just tell Dave in accounting to eff himself when he says shite like that.


shite like what?

If one of your coworkers said the words "you're one of those good blacks" you could have a field day with you hr department unless you work in 1940s Alabama or something
This post was edited on 7/9/15 at 11:16 pm
Posted by RDRGeaux09
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 11:19 pm to
I'm talking about when the Baltimore protest were going on. Everyone was a "thug" to those shite heads. And the term "good black" is about as stupid and ignorant as you can get. Because if I actually voices my opinion I'd no longer be a "good black"

Oh please, I couldn't go running to HR, with that. Most of them are white too, as I've said before it's not good to be seen rocking the boat in a white dominated field.
This post was edited on 7/9/15 at 11:22 pm
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 11:25 pm to
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I'm talking about when the Baltimore protest were going on. Everyone was a "thug" to those shite heads.


The people burning down their own neighborhoods, shooting at cops and yelling "burn this mother fricker down"? I dont give a shite about race. how could you defend that insane violence?

Im not saying you can't I guess agree with rioting before anyone knows any facts about the situation, but what do you wish you could've said?

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the term "good black"


Do your coworkers actually call you a "good black"? That's insane. Do you not have an hr department?

From.what you're saying I assume you work with some unbelievably outlying racists. What line of work are you in?
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 11:27 pm to
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Oh please, I couldn't go running to HR, with that. Most of them are white too, as I've said before it's not good to be seen rocking the boat in a white dominated field.


What? What field do you work in? And for what size company?

They just openly refer to you "as the good black"?

What hr department wouldn't take that seriously? Every place I've worked would've bulldozed someone for saying that. Especially in today's climate where a bad racial.news story can be a death sentence.

I think you have either far too little trust in people or you work at a really really shitty company in backwoods alabama somewhere.

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most of them are white too


Does being a bigot yourself bother you?
This post was edited on 7/9/15 at 11:34 pm
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 11:29 pm to
Sarcasm? 50 years is a really short amount of time when you're discussing socioeconomic dynamics.
Posted by RDRGeaux09
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 11:32 pm to
It was said while we were the only two people in the room watching the coverage and he thought he was paying me a compliment. I work in medical research in a lab and I'm not gonna say much more than that here. And what I wish I would have said was eff the CVS and and eff those cop cars and yes burn that shite down. People got fed up, got angry and while it's not something I would have done I'm certainly not passing judgement on those that did. Sometimes you can only take so much before things boil over and before you spout off about MLK jr. Please believe he would've thought the exact same thing. "Riots are the language of the unheard" words out of Martin Luther King Jr.'s own mouth
This post was edited on 7/9/15 at 11:33 pm
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 11:39 pm to
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was said while we were the only two people in the room watching the coverage and he thought he was paying me a compliment.


I'm floored that someone called you a "good black". You need to find a new job. Unlike your original premise, That's not what the majority of companies or people are like.

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before you spout off about MLK jr. Please believe he would've thought the exact same thing.


If you think MLK Jr would've supported the current riots and climate and attitude of the black lives matter campaign you need to go take a class on the philosophy of MLK Jr.

He'd be absolutely disgusted with the current state of affairs and these stupid bullshite ignorant social media campaigns. There are so many more problems and issues that need to.be addressed in communities across America that are over looked and uncared for as people waste their energies and passions on bullshite noncauses and faux outrage.


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what I wish I would have said was eff the CVS and and eff those cop cars and yes burn that shite down


You want to burn down a cvs?
This post was edited on 7/9/15 at 11:41 pm
Posted by RDRGeaux09
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 11:44 pm to
Look, I've read more books on MLK than most and yes I believe he would have supported the current movement.
And as far as that CVS, look that damn building doesn't matter. It burned big whoop, it's insured and probably will be rebuilt. Who really gives a shite? The outrage that building got for being burned was astronomically stupid.
This post was edited on 7/9/15 at 11:45 pm
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 11:46 pm to
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I've read more books on MLK than most and yes I believe he would have supported the current movement.


Then you need to reread those books or go talk to a civil rights history professor at a college. Or perhaps it's just that you, like many people today regardless of race, are missing the bigger issues here. MLK Jr would not have missed the bigger picture.


The world could use MLK Jr. today. These communities where these riots and outrage happen are so sadly misled and misinformed. Where is this outrage at the education systems and the lack of parenting and lack of self responsibility and the misguided youth and the black on black violence? Where is the outrage at the poor state of life in these communities and the cry to make themselves better? Where are the leaders who encourage these youths to work their asses off to better themselves and their communties?

I'll post this again:
He'd be absolutely disgusted with the current state of affairs and these stupid bullshite ignorant social media campaigns. There are so many more problems and issues that need to.be addressed in communities across America that are over looked and uncared for as people waste their energies and passions on bullshite noncauses and faux outrage.
This post was edited on 7/9/15 at 11:53 pm
Posted by RDRGeaux09
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 11:59 pm to
So you don't realize the programs and churches that have outreach programs in every inner city community? How severely underfunded they are which doesn't help anything. You don't hear about the marches that have happened in inner cities after bad weekends or the fact that most church leaders and youth organizations get together monthly to plan stuff for kids. These things happen in every city, Chicago, Philly, New York, New Orleans, Atlanta all have programs like this. Just because it's not in cnn or MSNBC doesn't mean it doesn't happen. St. Peter Claver, my church, here in New Orleans runs a couple of nights out against crime. Also, they have youth organization meetings every week.

How about you go and look up the different types of outreaches in the inner cities before you go spouting off asinine statements like that?
This post was edited on 7/10/15 at 12:02 am
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Posted on 7/10/15 at 12:03 am to
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Just because it's not in cnn or MSNBC doesn't mean it doesn't happen


That's exactly my point. That's what should be on the news. But it isnt. And it's sad that there isn't a nationally known and recognized personality and hero that stands for these things. That's why I said the country could use a resurrected MLK Jr.

And yes I know it happens locally. I'm involved with an inner city church that does things for the community. And yes they're stupidly underfunded.

My point is that MLK Jr. wouldn't have supported the bullshite fauxcauses that make it to the national media. Certainly not this latest trend of vandalism and violence.
This post was edited on 7/10/15 at 12:05 am
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