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re: New Michael Jackson doc
Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:44 am to Klark Kent
Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:44 am to Klark Kent
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i have a really really hard time believing that. when there is that much smoke, there's usually fire. it's naive to believe MJ didn't diddle one of these kids at some point.
it's really strange that MJ super fans can't separate their appreciation for MJ as an artist and MJ as a person. MJ was a fantastic generational talent of an artist. MJ as a person, almost certainly was a pedophile.
So present facts.
If this was a thread about #metoo claims, you probably have the opposite opinion here.
I don't know if he did or didn't, but I lean towards didn't in the absence of facts.
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Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:45 am to Klark Kent
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MJ as a person, almost certainly was a pedophile.
Wasn’t he acquitted on every count in 2005? Read what he secretary for the lawyer of the kid in 1993 had to say. It was a complete sham.
Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:45 am to Cump11b
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Not saying MJ is guilty or innocent, but it is important to note, there are many who accused priest in the church of abuse who were discredited. Also there were many who came to priest's defense who later came out to explain they themselves were victims of abuse. Lastly, there were many priests who were investigated and found innocent, only later did time reveal they did commit horrid crimes against children.
10 plus years of FBI investigations only to be found not guilty. All the while actively proving the only witness with a smidgen of evidence was lying. You are comparing apples and oranges. Now we have the same “victim” who was proven to be lying come out again. Why no one new? Why no new evidence? Why no evidence at all?
This post was edited on 1/28/19 at 10:46 am
Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:45 am to Klark Kent
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it's really strange
how many staunch MJ supporters there are on this board, this thread could go on for a while
Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:46 am to TH03
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Guilty until proven innocent.
this doesn't apply to public opinion
Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:47 am to Choctaw
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Guilty until proven innocent.
this doesn't apply to public opinion
It absolutely does. Unless you read that as innocent until proven guilty.
Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:49 am to TH03
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It absolutely does. Unless you read that as innocent until proven guilty.
i'm saying that you're applying a law doctrine to public opinion. Innocence or guilt doesn't apply
Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:50 am to TH03
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So present facts.
why?
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If this was a thread about #metoo claims, you probably have the opposite opinion here
potentially, yes. potentially, no. depends on the case.
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I don't know if he did or didn't, but I lean towards didn't in the absence of facts.
good on you TH03. in the same light, i haven't seen enough evidence to say he wasn't in fact a pedophile either. have you?
Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:51 am to Choctaw
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i'm saying that you're applying a law doctrine to public opinion. Innocence or guilt doesn't apply
It most certainly does. Guilty until proven innocent has been pervasive in the public opinion since the biblical days
Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:51 am to Choctaw
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i'm saying that you're applying a law doctrine to public opinion. Innocence or guilt doesn't apply
No shite.
I'm missing your point here.
Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:52 am to Klark Kent
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i haven't seen enough evidence to say he wasn't in fact a pedophile either. have you?
There’s actually loads of evidence and witnesses that say he wasn’t a pedophile, just strange. I’ll compile it all later for you if you wish.
Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:53 am to Klark Kent
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why?
Otherwise it's a baseless claim.
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in the same light, i haven't seen enough evidence to say he wasn't in fact a pedophile either. have you?
This logic is scary. It's not the burden of the accused to prove innocence.
And what evidence would prove he didn't do something? A 24/7 camera on his penis showing it didn't enter a child?
Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:59 am to Klark Kent
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MJ as a person, almost certainly was a pervert
You’ve really got no clue about his sexual internal workings. All you’re working on is suspicion. Nobody knows, and if they do, they ain’t saying shite.
Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:59 am to Klark Kent
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are you actually suggesting that MJ didn't have sexual relationships with children?
Yes.
Please provide some evidence. He was investigated for years and they found zero evidence.
The dad of the kid who started all this shite in the 90's killed himself when Jackson died. The kid also got emancipated from the parents when he was 16.
Michael was weird as frick but he was not a child molester. He wanted the childhood he never had.
Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:59 am to Klark Kent
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in the same light, i haven't seen enough evidence to say he wasn't in fact a pedophile either. have you?
yeesh
Posted on 1/28/19 at 11:00 am to TH03
i dunno man, maybe i'm reading a book by it's cover and he is innocent. but to your point earlier.
i just wish the media/public/social media would scrutinize all high profile damming claims in a similar manner as a large portion of the public does when MJ being a pedophile is brought up. Seems like the media/public/social media give some people an automatic pass in these situations and it's hushed away, while for others...depending what's at stake, their entire lives are under a microscope
i just wish the media/public/social media would scrutinize all high profile damming claims in a similar manner as a large portion of the public does when MJ being a pedophile is brought up. Seems like the media/public/social media give some people an automatic pass in these situations and it's hushed away, while for others...depending what's at stake, their entire lives are under a microscope
This post was edited on 1/28/19 at 11:02 am
Posted on 1/28/19 at 11:00 am to Salmon
From a die-hard poli board conservative no less.
Prove your innocence!
Prove your innocence!
Posted on 1/28/19 at 11:02 am to Klark Kent
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i haven't seen enough evidence to say he wasn't in fact a pedophile either. have you?
we haven't seen any evidence that you aren't in fact a pedophile.
Posted on 1/28/19 at 11:03 am to Klark Kent
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i just wish the media/public/social media would scrutinize all high profile damming claims in a similar manner as a large portion of the public does when MJ being a pedophile is brought up
And I would agree.
But you can't say something like this and then act the same as them in the case of MJ.
The court of public opinion is a nasty thing and we all get caught up it in sometimes. That doesn't make anyone right though.
Posted on 1/28/19 at 11:04 am to MorbidTheClown
but i've also never had anyone claim or file a police report otherwise. so.....moot point
eta: on my phone. suck a dick.
eta: on my phone. suck a dick.
This post was edited on 1/28/19 at 11:07 am
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