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re: Need AA Flight 77 Pentagon Crash Opinion
Posted on 9/7/23 at 11:06 am to Cajunhawk81
Posted on 9/7/23 at 11:06 am to Cajunhawk81
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If the government is not to be trusted, why trust them on 9/11?
It’s one thing to be suspicious of what you see and hear from the government, the media, or anyone else especially people here.
But it’s one thing to believe the government is lying, and an entire different thing to make up crap out of thin air to prove that they are lying.
There are so many holes in this cruise missile story that these conspiracy folks are trying to make. It’s really ludicrous.
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Posted on 9/7/23 at 11:07 am to Cajunhawk81
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Not Popular Science.
That’s not what I asked.
For someone who shits on the government and media for not telling the truth, it’s like pulling teeth to get you give a straight answer on basic questions.
Posted on 9/7/23 at 11:07 am to Cajunhawk81
Thanks for the response on that. Conceptually, I agree with a lot of what you're saying. I fully disagree with your theory on the Pentagon and flight 77, but I don't deny the possibility that certain people in our government may have been somehow involved or at least knowledgeable.
I have no opinion on building 7. I haven't looked into that too much.
I have no opinion on building 7. I haven't looked into that too much.
Posted on 9/7/23 at 11:09 am to Cajunhawk81
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No one has rock solid evidence
Planes literally crashing into buildings is pretty rock solid.
You're a troll. Shut the frick up.
Posted on 9/7/23 at 11:11 am to Cajunhawk81
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That's how I look at 9/11.
Well, you're an idiot.
Posted on 9/7/23 at 11:13 am to doubleb
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It’s one thing to be suspicious of what you see and hear from the government, the media, or anyone else especially people here.
But it’s one thing to believe the government is lying, and an entire different thing to make up crap out of thin air to prove that they are lying.
There are so many holes in this cruise missile story that these conspiracy folks are trying to make. It’s really ludicrous.
Gulf of Tonkin, people just like you defended that against cooky conspiracy whackos. And it was fake AF. People once fought to the death that the Earth was flat. They were wrong, and all their evidence was horseshite. The same "leaps" I'm supposedly taking can be said about how everyone just accepts what they were told happened. None of you were there. None of you saw what happened. You got it second hand, just like everyone else. Hell, even the people who witnessed it can't get their story straight. Blindly accepting it is tantamount to blindly ignoring it. This is what happened, this is how it happened, and there's no chance it happened any different. That's fricking stupid.
Posted on 9/7/23 at 11:14 am to Sam Quint
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I have no opinion on building 7. I haven't looked into that too much.
Don't. It's a rabbit hole.
Posted on 9/7/23 at 11:15 am to Cajunhawk81
To be fair, even Gulf of Tonkin is still pretty hazy on what exactly happened. You're probably right, but I wouldn't call it "fake AF".
Posted on 9/7/23 at 11:19 am to Cajunhawk81
quote:this is stupid.
Blindly accepting it i
Reaching conclusions based on evidence, logic and reason isn’t blind acceptance.
quote:How about, all of the evidence indicates this is most likely how it happened and your crazy theories lack credibility due to evidenced that has been corroborated multiple ways.
this is how it happened, and there's no chance it happened any different. That's fricking stupid.
You are an emotional zealot that, when confronted with truth, reason, logic and evidence hides behind this illusion so as to hold on to your fantasy.
This post was edited on 9/7/23 at 11:42 am
Posted on 9/7/23 at 11:20 am to JohnnyKilroy
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That’s not what I asked.
For someone who shits on the government and media for not telling the truth, it’s like pulling teeth to get you give a straight answer on basic questions.
Is the government and media not completely full of shite? Who do I trust, no one. Why would I? I'm no expert, but I like to think I can smell BS when it's right under my nose. Everyone has an agenda. You can disagree with that. But...look at what we just went through for 2 long years. Who are we supposed to hold up as our pillar of integrity? Joe Rogan? Why not think for yourself? And if I don't have super airtight sources that would never lie to me (wink wink, baby), who gives a big titted frick?
Posted on 9/7/23 at 11:22 am to Sam Quint
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To be fair, even Gulf of Tonkin is still pretty hazy on what exactly happened. You're probably right, but I wouldn't call it "fake AF".
Not admitted by McNamara until 2003. That's almost 40 years later. It was still false pretext for military action. Fits the bill. Who knows what will come out about 9/11 once the PNAC crew is in the ground.
Posted on 9/7/23 at 11:25 am to Cajunhawk81
quote:Your post history proves you eat up bs like it’s a prime rib eye. You clearly can’t tell the difference.
I'm no expert, but I like to think I can smell BS when it's right under my nose.
Posted on 9/7/23 at 11:28 am to Cajunhawk81
I've read McNamara's book, McMaster's response book, as well as the entire Pentagon Papers. The Gulf of Tonkin was a confusing incident that they chose to treat as a certain enemy attack when they weren't really sure. Yes it was used as a pretext for going to war, but they didn't know for sure, and still no one knows what actually happened. They lied about the certainty of the attack, but they didn't make up an attack, and it definitely wasn't a false flag attack.
Posted on 9/7/23 at 11:28 am to WDE24
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You are an emotional zealot that
Maybe you're right. Or maybe you just want 9/11 to be a closed book with no possibility of happening any other way than the truth you believe in. That's a pretty emotional stance.
Truth be told, I don't like being this way. It's obsessive and it takes me to dark places. I blame my dad. He was always pushing me to think critically and question everything. He was a pothead. A brilliant pothead.
But I'm too old to change. And I haven't lost any friends or family over it...so I'll emotionally zealot some mo. If you don't like it, you can choose to ignore it. I won't hold it against you.
Posted on 9/7/23 at 11:29 am to WDE24
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Your post history proves you eat up bs like it’s a prime rib eye. You clearly can’t tell the difference.
What's the harm in someone you've never met and only interacted with on a sports message board believing something you don't agree with. Don't get emotional man. Don't be like me. And looking up post histories is creepy.
This post was edited on 9/7/23 at 11:37 am
Posted on 9/7/23 at 11:35 am to Sam Quint
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I've read McNamara's book, McMaster's response book, as well as the entire Pentagon Papers. The Gulf of Tonkin was a confusing incident that they chose to treat as a certain enemy attack when they weren't really sure. Yes it was used as a pretext for going to war, but they didn't know for sure, and still no one knows what actually happened. They lied about the certainty of the attack, but they didn't make up an attack, and it definitely wasn't a false flag attack.
I think False Flag's can be that nebulous. It's all about opportunity. It doesn't technically have to be set up in advance. It just has to be used to deceive. That's giving the MIC too much credit for not being as diabolical as possible when the moment arises.
Posted on 9/7/23 at 11:38 am to Cajunhawk81
quote:Your posts don’t indicate you are doing this.
He was always pushing me to think critically
Posted on 9/7/23 at 11:39 am to Cajunhawk81
LBJ's political ambitions were much more a part of the GoT incident and reaction than the military industrial complex. He was obsessed with looking tough on communism to silence his critics.
This post was edited on 9/7/23 at 11:40 am
Posted on 9/7/23 at 11:41 am to Sam Quint
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LBJ's political ambitions were much more a part of the GoT incident and reaction than the military industrial complex. He was obsessed with looking tough on communism to silence his critics.
MIC always puts those types of guys in place. See Truman. Little man with something to prove, they knew he'd drop the bomb. Henry Wallace wouldn't have, but we wouldn't have wanted to go that route either.
Posted on 9/7/23 at 11:41 am to Cajunhawk81
quote:ok.
Don't get emotional man.
quote:Delusional people often cause harm. Whether you do or not, I’m not sure. I suspect not. I don’t think I indicated you were causing harm, I just replied to the topic at hand and your posts as one does on a message board.
What's the harm in someone you've never met and only interacted with on a sports message board believing something you don't agree with.
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