re: Navy admits UFO videos are real

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After all the UFO BS stuff over the years and all the suggestions our government was hiding this from us, we find out indeed there are aliens among us

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When did UFO = aliens?

It just means it’s unidentified. Strange leap to take in assuming aliens. “I don’t know what that is. Must be an alien”

Lmao..... I actually do not believe they are aliens.... but our own aircraft.... that was back engineered from technology that we found long ago... Hell maybe we found a big UFO garage in Antartica a while back during Operation High Jump...

So you did the exact opposite of what I suggested... Do some research on it....

Bob Lazar has stayed away from the public for 25+ years because of the ridicule of the public and the loss of friends and family that didnt want anything to do with him because of it or from them not being able to be involved for fear of ridicule. The only reason he was on Joe Rogan because there is a documentary out right now, that if you go back through this topic will see, on Netflix by a Jeremy Corbell. A documentary film maker who basically contacted and pleaded with Bob Lazar to do the documentary. So Joe didnt dig up some old artifact or anything. If you watch his interviews and see him Bob Lazar is a legit scientists who owns a company and has tried his damnest to stray away from the public eye. He doesnt like the attention.

But you are doing what 50 percent of the population has been doing and just assuming because what he is talking about has to be a lie without ever actually looking into it and doing some research. The same people that only believe what is in front of them or what is told to them by the government. There is alot more to this world when you actually look into it.

There's already a TV show on these events, not sure this is exactly news.

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So you did the exact opposite of what I suggested... Do some research on it....

Bob Lazar has stayed away from the public for 25+ years because of the ridicule of the public and the loss of friends and family that didnt want anything to do with him because of it or from them not being able to be involved for fear of ridicule. The only reason he was on Joe Rogan because there is a documentary out right now, that if you go back through this topic will see, on Netflix by a Jeremy Corbell. A documentary film maker who basically contacted and pleaded with Bob Lazar to do the documentary. So Joe didnt dig up some old artifact or anything. If you watch his interviews and see him Bob Lazar is a legit scientists who owns a company and has tried his damnest to stray away from the public eye. He doesnt like the attention.

But you are doing what 50 percent of the population has been doing and just assuming because what he is talking about has to be a lie without ever actually looking into it and doing some research. The same people that only believe what is in front of them or what is told to them by the government. There is alot more to this world when you actually look into it.

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If you spend 30 minutes googling Bob Lazar you will quickly understand that he is a liar. He lied about his education background - said he has a masters from MIT and Caltech. If somebody tried to sabotage my records to try and erase my involvement in the school I would have a hundred different ways to prove I at least attended the university. Professors, fellow students, financial records, photos, paper records and a diploma would all be able to corroborate my story. You would only need one of those to prove your story - he has ZERO corroboration.

Anybody that starts with lying on the basics and then puts forward more hard to believe facts is likely still lying. He puts forward a very convincing front like he is a quiet genius who happened to be put on a world changing skunks works project and yet has no real academic background.

I thought he was telling the truth when he did the Rogan interview. Some basic background research and use of logic says otherwise.

Screw Ringworld. I just want us to reach that solar tech.

Power earth until the sun goes tits up and a beam for asteroid and comet defense? Sign me the frick up for it.

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The only thing that would remotely come close to that is solar energy. The sun puts out enough energy to supply the world many, many times over but we don't have a technology capable of harnessing it on a large, efficient scale. I can't believe you guys believe this crap.

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Zero point or vacuum energy.

You would have your own physical transcripts and a circle of people from your time there that would remember you unless you were a complete social outcast.

Guy runs a fireworks festival and has a company that's gotten slapped on the wrist for transporting the chemicals for it in the wrong fashion.

Regarding Bob Lazar you may want to read and draw your own conclusions LINK

Its actually pretty entertaining : Highlights:

"After Lazar got to Los Alamos and set up his photo processing business, he managed to get a limited term, contract job with Kirk-Mayer. Kirk-Mayer was one of the smaller contractors supplying support staff to the Los Alamos lab, such as data entry personnel, machinists, fabricators and electronic technicians. Kirk-Mayer never did provide “physicists” or positions of that caliber. Lazar had some electronic technical education from Pierce College in Southern California and had some work experience with Fairchild, so he was hired as an electronic tech with Kirk-Mayer. I have interviews with several people who worked with him and he was described as a very clever troubleshooter and fix-it guy. He was there often enough to get listed in the LANL phone directory, with the denotation “K/M” next to his name, indicating his affiliation with Kirk-Mayer. Although the following ad is from the Albuquerque Journal in January, 1989, a few years after Lazar had left Los Alamos, it probably closely describes Lazar’s position at the time.
In an amazing display of totally fricked synchronicity, the Los Alamos Monitor newspaper article came out on June 27, 1982 and the very next day Edward Teller was scheduled to give a lecture at Los Alamos. Had this not happened, I doubt there ever would have been a Lazar story. I gleefully accept that Lazar came upon Teller reading the paper and pointed out the story about Lazar and his jet car. Since the story identified Lazar as a “physicist” at the lab, I have no doubt Lazar chatted up Teller, again a master of low key self promotion, trying his best to impress Teller.

Let’s jump forward to 1985 when Lazar blew out of Los Alamos and relocated to Las Vegas. According to the bankruptcy papers Lazar filed on July 21, 1986 (BTW, 120 pages of amazeballs freely available to anyone who wants to pay, case BK 86-01623, US Federal Bankruptcy Court, Las Vegas), he stiffed people right and left before leaving Los Alamos, including family members.

Lazar putzed around Las Vegas for the next few years. I have information from good sources that during this time he worked very briefly at a Smokey Sam site as part of Nellis training exercises in the northern reaches of the Nellis Range. I suspect he had an inkling of what was going on at Groom as I was told Lazar made a number of overnight trips circumnavigating the Nellis Range during the period.

Eventually he discovered EG&G’s connection with Groom, and also Edward Teller’s connection with EG&G, so in 1988 he sent Teller a letter. “Hey, remember me, the Los Alamos jet car physicist? I have lots of experience in particle accelerators, since I worked at Los Alamos’s Technical Area 53, the Meson Physics Facility, which has an 800 MeV proton accelerator. Do you know of any interesting positions where I might be able to put that experience to use??”

Knowing Teller’s Strangelovian background, I don’t have a lot of sympathy for the man. But in this one case I feel for the guy. Like so many in Lazar’s sphere of influence, he was had. Maybe it was because he was 80 years old at the time and not as sharp, but perhaps he thought Lazar might be an excellent candidate for the proton beam project and made some calls. Things happened and Lazar gets called in for an interview. Catastrophes are seldom the result of a major, bad single decision, but usually a cascading series of unwise choices. Such was the case here.

Now it boggles my mind how someone with Lazar’s bankruptcy record would be granted any sort of clearance but perhaps it hadn’t been immediately unearthed. And maybe Teller passed on a crazy, glowing recommendation. And possibly Lazar had a previous Q clearance from Los Alamos. In any case, security guys visit Lazar’s home and check him out, they decide he’s their guy (at least for now), and he’s soon on a Janet flight to Groom on a very limited basis doing non-classified grunt work until his clearance is updated. In any case, if he didn’t already fully know, he does now that they’re operating a proton accelerator at Groom, and oh, BTW, they usually fire it up on Wednesday nights. Sounds like it’s time for a party to me!

Figuring out another’s motives is difficult, especially with Lazar. Specifically, I’m speaking of why the frick, WHY(??) did he decide to bring his friends out to see a Wednesday night test? It could be that he realized his clearance was going to fall through due to the bankruptcy. Or perhaps it was an attempt to prank his friend John Lear, who Lazar often made fun of for his UFO interests. Or maybe Lazar just thought he was smarter than all those security guys at Groom and no one would ever know. Or it could have been something as simple as wanting to impress his friends. Dunno. But in any case, he brought them all out.

But here’s the important part…..Lazar never told his friends/family the truth, that they were seeing the effects of a proton beam. Lazar spun his crazy saucer story to them, in his mind thinking that as long as he wasn’t revealing what they were actually seeing, he wouldn’t be violating security (setting aside for the moment he was bringing visitors to observe classified tests). The people Lazar brought out to see the tests became his most ardent supporters and defenders, because, hell, he showed them flying saucers and called the days they’d show up. That’s pretty damn convincing. Alas, in a familiar pattern, they were played for fools. I suspect, but do not know, that some of this group may now know the truth. But they didn’t then.

So, April 6, 1989…..It all comes crashing down. Security discovers our little band of partiers and Lazar bolts into the desert. It’s starting to sink in that he could be in some serious shite. The Lincoln County Sheriff later questions the merry makers and lets them go, but they had Lazar’s ID and he knew word would quickly get back to Groom. Uh oh….he could be looking at serious jail time.

The next day Lazar is summoned to the Indian Springs airfield and the full force of the Groom security apparatus is directed at him. He now realizes how close to jail he is. His only defense is that he didn’t tell his comrades what they were actually seeing, but rather it was a made up story of flying saucers. This, of course, doesn’t go over well with the security guys, but they are somewhat stymied. Their choice is, do they prosecute this guy and draw further attention to Groom’s operations, or just kick him out and intimidate the hell out of him to get him to speak no further? I guess, in hindsight, they picked wrong.

Unbeknownst to the Groom guys, Lazar’s tale to his friends cast him as the hero against a hopelessly inefficient, secret government bureaucracy. Their rallying around him and support emboldened him, eventually granting interviews to KLAS due to John Lear’s urgings. Lazar also may have viewed that action as insurance, heightening his profile, should Groom security decide to come after him again. But it required him to fully double down on the alien saucer tale he had wove.

Not a bad gig, really. Some minor celebrity and attention, along with occasional paid interviews. And he maintains it to this day, because, well…he has to. It keeps him out of jail. I’m certain the Feds have a long memory when it comes to Lazar and would love to get even for him trashing Groom’s abilities to run secret operations.