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re: National Gasoline Price Average back above $4/gallon; LA, TX, MS, LA still under $3.65/gal
Posted on 8/18/26 at 7:48 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Posted on 8/18/26 at 7:48 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Pipelines are a decade in the making and are easy targets.
Won't solve the diesel/gasoline crisis about to hit the world.
Won't solve the diesel/gasoline crisis about to hit the world.
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Posted on 8/18/26 at 7:58 am to fightin tigers
Thank you for the downstream and diesel educations. 
Posted on 8/18/26 at 7:58 am to fightin tigers
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Pipelines are a decade in the making and are easy targets.
Right. I dont see it being a viable solution. Installation of a friendly regime in Iran isnt going very well.
The only real viable solution is western hemisphere supply chain. Cheap energy from such an unstable region is going to be a never ending war, as it has already been for the past ~50 years.
Posted on 8/18/26 at 8:03 am to Bunk Moreland
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We're headed for a diesel and aviation fuel crisis.
I’ve seen articles about this possibility for months now, but at least to my unprofessional eye, seems everything is business as usual. So I can’t tell if such articles and predictions are just fear mongering or real.
Posted on 8/18/26 at 8:08 am to Bunk Moreland
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We're headed for a diesel and aviation fuel crisis.
Hitler eventually had to make his diesel from coal.
Posted on 8/18/26 at 8:09 am to ragincajun03
There is a cliff but you really don't see it until you are off it. Once the panic price starts it will take a lot to end well since there are no reserves to calm the market.
The inventories for finished products are really low and the means to produce are 95% or better. That 95% is a rate that is impossible to maintain long term.
China has the ability to export finished products now but you have to ask yourself how much are they willing to chase profits if it comes at the expense of their security. Russia has absolutely no capacity to export and can't really supply themselves. South America has some export capacity and are helping fill in barrels to Europe.
Dangote in Africa is a new wild card. Will be fun to see if he exploits the market.
The inventories for finished products are really low and the means to produce are 95% or better. That 95% is a rate that is impossible to maintain long term.
China has the ability to export finished products now but you have to ask yourself how much are they willing to chase profits if it comes at the expense of their security. Russia has absolutely no capacity to export and can't really supply themselves. South America has some export capacity and are helping fill in barrels to Europe.
Dangote in Africa is a new wild card. Will be fun to see if he exploits the market.
This post was edited on 8/18/26 at 8:12 am
Posted on 8/18/26 at 8:30 am to fightin tigers
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Dangote in Africa is a new wild card. Will be fun to see if he exploits the market.
Do they have the capacity to make a real impact? Seems like we'd need 10 more of those.
Posted on 8/18/26 at 9:00 am to ragincajun03
Times are not good. Just fyi, I paid $3.27 this morning at Sams. Probably could have gotten it cheaper - Sams is convienent for me as I pass it twice a day.
Posted on 8/18/26 at 9:07 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
700kbd, they can make an impact if decide to go after it.
Posted on 8/18/26 at 9:12 am to fightin tigers
What are they doing with it now? Im not familiar with it at all. I basically just know it exists and makes primarily distillate. I guess its primarily supplying Africa?
Posted on 8/18/26 at 9:48 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Yeah, Dangote himself viewed it as a way to get off European control. A lot of European refiners stayed running by exporting high sulfur distillate into Africa. This closed the door and also brought cleaner fuel to Africa.
Dangote built this as a way to become refined products independent. The majors fought him by refusing to build pipelines to supply the refinery. I think that view is changing some now. They imported a ton from the US to start.
Because of their position they cand compete with the US east coast, Europe, and south American market.
Dangote built this as a way to become refined products independent. The majors fought him by refusing to build pipelines to supply the refinery. I think that view is changing some now. They imported a ton from the US to start.
Because of their position they cand compete with the US east coast, Europe, and south American market.
Posted on 8/18/26 at 11:19 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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What we REALLY need is a western hemisphere supply chain that can support our demand and totally eliminate middle eastern oil from our economy.
What we really need is alternative forms of energy that can reduce oil demand and stimulate free market competition
Posted on 8/18/26 at 11:25 am to Hobie101
Its a nice thought but not realistic. Even with massive government subsidy nothing "alternative" has made a real difference. Even with heavy government obstruction, diesel is still the cheapest way to move goods and likely will be for several more decades.
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