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re: My son's teacher counts off 10pts per misspelled word
Posted on 8/21/15 at 2:42 pm to buckeye_vol
Posted on 8/21/15 at 2:42 pm to buckeye_vol
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Well that makes more sense than then equally punishing a student that writes 99 out of 100 words correctly as a student that writes 39 out of 40 correctly.
Yes, spelling "the" should carry the same weight as "introduced." It's so logical.
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 2:43 pm to LNCHBOX
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Sure in the business world there is not much consequence to a simple error most times, but the whole point of the assignment is to teach proper writing.
I have seen a number of cases where a person did not make the cut for a higher level position simply because of the poor quality of their writing. Where I once worked, there were often hundreds of qualified applicants for a single open position, one misspelled word in a resume could result in it being tossed out.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 2:43 pm to buckeye_vol
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Based on what? Your subjective opinion?
Anything. If you get to choose the words you're writing and misspell over 8% of them, that is terrible. If that's the average, it's shows why were are looks so dumb compared to the children of other countries.
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That's the SJW logic I was referring to.
That still makes no sense. An SJW would be all for the excuse fest that you're making though.
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Objective data is not consistent with your views
My view is that data shows our kids are getting dumber.
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Frankly, a spelling error is less indicative of an "idiot" than flawed logical reasoning.
My logic is just fine, thanks though.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 2:44 pm to EA6B
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I have seen a number of cases where a person did not make the cut for a higher level position simply because of the poor quality of their writing. Where I once worked, there were often hundreds of qualified applicants for a single open position, one misspelled word in a resume could result in it being tossed out.
But spelling and proper writing doesn't matter. Listen to some of the people in this thread
Posted on 8/21/15 at 2:46 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:Well then you probably have issue with just about every cognitive, academic, and aptitude test available. A student recieves the same credit on the vast majority of tests (unless it is an item-response adaptive test, which are rare) regardless of the difficulty level.
Yes, spelling "the" should carry the same weight as "introduced." It's so logical.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 2:52 pm to buckeye_vol
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It's not incredibly embarrassing for initial story construction. We all probably make errors when initially writing something, then proofread and edit as we refine our writing.
Yes, it is embarrassing. I now understand why my parents busted their asses to send me and my brothers to private school. That kind of ineptitude was just not an option.
And people like you that bend over backwards to make excuses for it are part of the problem.
If I had misspelled 6-7 words in this post what would you think of me? You would think I was illiterate and uneducated (as well you should). So it is pretty disheartening to me to hear that we have set the bar so low that I would find the average 9th grader to be a complete moron.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 2:53 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:Where is your support? O wait. The Flynn Effect shows the opposite, but again, you base your views on subjectivity, not evidence.
My view is that data shows our kids are getting dumber.
Interestingly though, research in cognitive ability has shown that indivduals with lower-IQs tend to use their subjective anecdotes and dismiss objective evidence. Now I know you often troll, but calling people idiots, then using their logical reasoning is a bit ironic.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 2:53 pm to buckeye_vol
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Well then you probably have issue with just about every cognitive, academic, and aptitude test available. A student recieves the same credit on the vast majority of tests (unless it is an item-response adaptive test, which are rare) regardless of the difficulty level.
As rare as...GRE
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)Posted on 8/21/15 at 2:56 pm to sandwolf
quote:I wouldn't expect an ADULT with spell-check to make the same amount of errors as students without spellcheck. Regardless, my point is that 10 points for an ommision of a single letter devaluing all other aspects of writing.
If I had misspelled 6-7 words in this post what would you think of me?
Posted on 8/21/15 at 2:58 pm to Pectus
quote:Which is one of the few mainstream tests to use it.
As rare as...GRE
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(and it's receive )
Posted on 8/21/15 at 3:00 pm to buckeye_vol
What if the teacher took off ten points no matter how many misspelled words there were? Ten points off for grammatical errors or improper sentence structure?
This issue is you don't know what the teachers reasoning is behind her grading technique, yet you immediately jump in to defend the student.
In the real world, a hiring manager is not going to know or care that you have a disorder that causes the inability to properly spell words. He's going to see errors in your resume and factor that in to the decision making process.
I'm curious, what's your view on trophies for little league sports?
This issue is you don't know what the teachers reasoning is behind her grading technique, yet you immediately jump in to defend the student.
In the real world, a hiring manager is not going to know or care that you have a disorder that causes the inability to properly spell words. He's going to see errors in your resume and factor that in to the decision making process.
I'm curious, what's your view on trophies for little league sports?
Posted on 8/21/15 at 3:02 pm to DCtiger1
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This issue is you don't know what the teachers reasoning is behind her grading technique, yet you immediately jump in to defend the student.
This is exactly what happened.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 3:02 pm to Tchefuncte Tiger
quote:What does subject-verb disagreement make people look like? Did you misspell "makes", or does your grammar stink?
Poor spelling make people look like morons.
I assure you every English professor in this country will agree that subject-verb disagreement is a much bigger mistake than some spelling errors.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 3:09 pm to DCtiger1
quote:Sure. But I'm a poor speller and my VITA doesn't have spelling errors, and I was somehow able write a dissertation. One of my major professors was an admittedly poor speller, and he was the most published scholar in my field.
In the real world, a hiring manager is not going to know or care that you have a disorder that causes the inability to properly spell words. He's going to see errors in your resume and factor that in to the decision making process.
We had the opportunity to edit our work and correct errors.
Notice that spelling is not measured in the ACT, SAT, GRE, MCAT, advanced placement test etc. It's because, while important, it's not a major indicator of intelligence, aptitude, or achievment.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 3:13 pm to DCtiger1
quote:Well that is not what happened, according to the OP.
What if the teacher took off ten points no matter how many misspelled words there were?
Posted on 8/21/15 at 3:40 pm to buckeye_vol
The OP's kid actually misspelled 2 words, which makes the OP's argument worse.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 3:55 pm to arcalades
We'd have to know more about the assignment to judge the situation.
But if her intent was to let the students know that spelling counts in her class, seems her point was made on him (and you, and us.)
At what age do you plan to let your son suffer the consequences of his mistakes?
I can slightly relate... my daughter is in the 9th grade and has made one B on a report card in her life (in the 6th grade.) I was tempted to contest the B, but decided it was better to let her learn that B's can happen... for various reasons.
Let them learn. Life isn't fair. The boss might not be either.
But if her intent was to let the students know that spelling counts in her class, seems her point was made on him (and you, and us.)
At what age do you plan to let your son suffer the consequences of his mistakes?
I can slightly relate... my daughter is in the 9th grade and has made one B on a report card in her life (in the 6th grade.) I was tempted to contest the B, but decided it was better to let her learn that B's can happen... for various reasons.
Let them learn. Life isn't fair. The boss might not be either.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 4:14 pm to arcalades
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I assure you every English professor in this country will agree that subject-verb disagreement is a much bigger mistake than some spelling errors.
I assure you almost everyone agrees your whining is ridiculous.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 4:51 pm to mikrit54
The fact that this thread is still raging on is pretty entertaining.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 4:58 pm to arcalades
Suck a turd pickle dick
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