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re: My little ones were sitting on the sofa with me while I was watching the draft
Posted on 5/12/14 at 1:48 pm to Hammond Tiger Fan
Posted on 5/12/14 at 1:48 pm to Hammond Tiger Fan
This happened to me when my son was also around five. We were in line checking out and 2 guys were at the register with their arms around each other and hands cupped on each others' butt cheeks. He was staring at their hands with his face kind of twisted and confused. He looked at me for explanation and I put my finger to my mouth to shhhh him. When we got outside he said "What's wrong with them boys?" I had no clue what to say but figured I should be straight up with him. I said "They're gay. That's when girls like girls and boys like boys." He made a face like "Ewwwww..." I just giggled and said "I know right..." That was the end of it.
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Posted on 5/12/14 at 1:50 pm to Darth_Vader
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So do you then not teach your child that some things are immoral or wrong?
I'll teach my kids that if something is wrong, that it is perfectly ok to judge the shite out of them
Posted on 5/12/14 at 1:50 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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Honestly...of the myriad of things I feel I need to help my boys with as they grow up, conversations like these don't really rank all that high.
i have 4 boys and feel the complete opposite...they need to know from me...their father...that homosexuality and sodomy are wrong...and I say this in the face of the society that is trying to force me and mine to accept something as natural that is not at all natural...
Posted on 5/12/14 at 1:52 pm to SthGADawg
I'd like to nominate this thread for the Droppies. Worst. Thread. Ever.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 1:52 pm to Salmon
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I'll teach my kids that if something is wrong, that it is perfectly ok to judge the shite out of them
There's a balance that has to be struck when it comes to judgement. Yes you don't want them to be overly judgmental. But at the same time you can go to the other extreme and leave them totally incapable of using good judgement. You cannot make it far in life if you lack sound judgement.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 1:53 pm to Ponchy Tiger
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Nothing contradictory about that. Its simple but maybe you can't understand it so I will break it down for you. He doesn't care what these gays do and won't let it effect how he treats them. See? no discrimination.
It's so easy to say you're not discriminating. Tell me this: what if you or OP saw a gay couple kissing in real life? Would you turn your kids away or cover their eyes? Maybe not. Would you want to? Hell yes. quote:
But at the same time his 5 year old son questions this and wonders why 2 men are kissing. This kids instincts tell him its not natural which led to the question to his Dad, why?
Right, the kid's instincts tell him it's not natural. Or maybe he's just like every single kid ever who asks a thousand questions about something the first time he sees it? You are putting discriminatory thoughts into the head of a 5 year old you've never met, but you don't discriminate, right?
Posted on 5/12/14 at 1:54 pm to Hammond Tiger Fan
Honestly I would tell them the truth. I understand if that's what you wouldn't do, especially to your kid who's that young, but I think it's better than lying to them or ignoring their question. In the end, if your kids are taught the choices of either being gay or straight by you as a parent, they will make a decision in their hearts that will ultimately make them happy, and hopefully you can support them.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 1:56 pm to Hammond Tiger Fan
I call bullshite on the OP's story period.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 1:58 pm to Korkstand
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Right, the kid's instincts tell him it's not natural. Or maybe he's just like every single kid ever who asks a thousand questions about something the first time he sees it?
You are putting discriminatory thoughts into the head of a 5 year old you've never met, but you don't discriminate, right?
Actually he made a valid point. I remember my son reacting in the same manner the first time he saw homosexual affection between to guys (think it was on Modern Family). He was still young enough that we'd not told him really anything pro or con about homosexuality. Despite this is initial reaction to seeing two men acting towards each other in the manner he'd seen me and his mother act towards each other was quite negative. We'd never told him it was wrong. He didn't even know such things existed. Yet he determined on his own virtually immediately that it was unnatural.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 1:58 pm to Sao
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I call bullshite on the OP's story period.
yup.... "i asked my wife how we should handle the situation"....
daddy why he kissing that boy?
cause that dude is gay son.
What's gay?
when a boy likes to kiss another boy. disgusting huh son......?
Posted on 5/12/14 at 1:59 pm to Sao
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I call bullshite on the OP's story period.
Based on what?
Posted on 5/12/14 at 2:00 pm to SthGADawg
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i have 4 boys and feel the complete opposite...they need to know from me...their father...that homosexuality and sodomy are wrong.
I feel sorry for your boys. I mean that sincerely.
I also feel sorry for you that you feel so strongly about sodomy that you've never enjoyed a blowjob. but, holding strong convictions has it down sides I guess.
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.and I say this in the face of the society that is trying to force me and mine to accept something as natural that is not at all natural...
Eh. The saddest part of this is that society IS moving away from your brand of thinking and you will be placing your boys in a position of being in a very ugly minority on the coming years, much the same way parents who are racists insist on instilling that brand of ignorance into their children. I believe you think you're doing what's right, but I see it as doing them great harm.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 2:01 pm to Darth_Vader
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There's a balance that has to be struck when it comes to judgement. Yes you don't want them to be overly judgmental. But at the same time you can go to the other extreme and leave them totally incapable of using good judgement. You cannot make it far in life if you lack sound judgement.
How about teaching your kids to reserve judgement for people and actions that actually impact the lives of others?
Posted on 5/12/14 at 2:02 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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Eh. The saddest part of this is that society IS moving away from your brand of thinking and you will be placing your boys in a position of being in a very ugly minority on the coming years, much the same way parents who are racists insist on instilling that brand of ignorance into their children. I believe you think you're doing what's right, but I see it as doing them great harm
And he almost certainly sees your way as doing great harm. He has his opinion and you have yours.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 2:04 pm to SthGADawg
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i have 4 boys and feel the complete opposite...they need to know from me...their father...that homosexuality and sodomy are wrong...and I say this in the face of the society that is trying to force me and mine to accept something as natural that is not at all natural...
Why do you feel they should know it is wrong?
Posted on 5/12/14 at 2:04 pm to Darth_Vader
quote:How old is your son? Is he in school? Does he have friends? Does he see heterosexual couples every day of his life? I promise he didn't determine anything totally on his own.
Actually he made a valid point. I remember my son reacting in the same manner the first time he saw homosexual affection between to guys (think it was on Modern Family). He was still young enough that we'd not told him really anything pro or con about homosexuality. Despite this is initial reaction to seeing two men acting towards each other in the manner he'd seen me and his mother act towards each other was quite negative. We'd never told him it was wrong. He didn't even know such things existed. Yet he determined on his own virtually immediately that it was unnatural.
And did he not react the same way at some point to you and your wife showing affection?
Posted on 5/12/14 at 2:04 pm to SabiDojo
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"If you can't answer the tough questions your kids have, then don't have kids."
I think people would have a much easier time answering the question if they were not concerned about the PC police.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 2:05 pm to SthGADawg
quote:I feel sorry for those 4 boys who will one day be old enough to realize their father is a bigot.
i have 4 boys and feel the complete opposite...they need to know from me...their father...that homosexuality and sodomy are wrong...and I say this in the face of the society that is trying to force me and mine to accept something as natural that is not at all natural...
Posted on 5/12/14 at 2:07 pm to Korkstand
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How about teaching your kids to reserve judgement for people and actions that actually impact the lives of others?
Like I said, there is a balance a parent must find when teaching their child about judgement. AS to the effect of homosexuality, it's affect on others is indeed a matter of your perspective and opinion. Some see it as a matter only between the two people involved in any homosexual relationship. Others however see the spread of homosexuality as harmful to society as a whole. There will always be opposing views on this. The thing people on both side need to do though is teach their kids that no matter what their view on the matter of homosexuality is, it's not grounds to hate or mistreat anyone. We can have opposing world views on things like this and still live in peace.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 2:08 pm to Darth_Vader
How did you become such an expert on parenting
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