re: My buddies fiance insists he sign a prenup.

I think every marriage should have a prenup given the divorce laws in this country.

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I get this, but I also feel like it’s convenient for people who make average incomes to feel this way. If you were an unusually high earner, would you have the same opinion?

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We can all argue about what constitutes a "high earner" but I'm top 2.5% according to wikipedia just now. I can also promise you, it doesn't feel like that.

Of course, I am not in line to inherit a large family business of any sort either. So, maybe that would change my mind??

But, either way, again, that's just my opinion on marriage.

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I get her family’s concerns but the reality is that pre nups should be the last thing on your mind if you’re getting married. If you can already see a scenario that it fails, then it will for sure.

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Using this rationale the best way to protect against getting in a car wreck is to not wear a seatbelt.

The reality is that two good people can get into a marriage with the best of intentions yet every marriage encounters unforeseen circumstances, and you don't really know how you or the other will handle it until it happens. Prenups make a ton of sense and many more people should sign them.

For anyone questioning “her motives” ask yourself this question.

If the groom decides he is no longer in love with her and starts humping his secretary, why should she lose half her money?

She can be 100% in love, 100% committed for life, and 99.9% certain that he is the same. She can’t be 100% certain of his intentions.

Thus, the prenup.

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Using this rationale the best way to protect against getting in a car wreck is to not wear a seatbelt.

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I don't agree with this analogy. I think where I differ, from what looks like most of this board, is that I didn't look at marriage as a financial decision at all or worrying about a safety net if all goes south. It's about wanting to spend my life with my wife for better or worse and bring on whatever comes. I knew then and I know now it's not going to be a smooth ride, but I'm committed to it.

I mitigate risks all the time using your analogy - I wear my seatbelt, obviously. I get my car inspected, drive defensively (some of the time), etc..

I just look at marriage as a deeper, lifelong commitment and if I wasn't willing to make that sacrifice with my wife, then she's wasn't the right one for me. Does that mean I could be bent over if things go irreparably wrong? Sure. But I knew that and accepted that going in.

Like I've stated, that's just me (and hopefully my wife ). Maybe I would argue that if more people went in with this attitude, there would be less divorce. Don't know, I can only control me.

Honestly he should embrace this discuss no allimony and 50/50 custody for kids

I would never sign that. I would give her an ultimatum back - renounce your inheritance or I’m gone. Nothing is going to stand between me and my wife; certainly not money.

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He's under the impression that a signature is setting the marriage up for failure.

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What’s setting the marriage up for failure is the money. They should go to their families, holding hands, and tell them to will the money to someone else. That shite is poison!

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Lmfao

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Your laughter betrays your emptiness. My wife and I started with nothing but each other, and that was all that we needed. We raised a great family, and along the way we made a bunch of money. Now it’s just the two of us with more money than we will ever need, but the important things in our life would not change if the Dems confiscate all the money.

Tell him I will trade with him.