re: Most liberal cities in the South

Sounds like Denver

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Not a liberal but that sounds good to me.

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Oh that sounds great to me. I'd love to make enough money to one day retire in the Asheville area.

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I dont get this. Asheville might lean left, some of them far left, but it’s certainly not militant liberal by any stretch. They have a lot of different people who make up that place and most aren’t freaks like you will find in Portland, and those who are are almost certainly in West Asheville. There numbers aren’t that big.

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I'm not really talking the freaks in Portland. Those are just he vocal minority. I'm talking the pervasive common liberal hipster i.e. my sister and all her friends.

They live a calm, hippy, peaceful life hiking and skiing and drinking good beer.

I should've qualified the statement by saying Asheville has similar political leanings to Portland outside of the small contingent of radical ANTIFA psychos that seem to grab headlines, but make up a smaller percentage of the population than people realize.


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Last time I was in Asheville I did see a huge sign in someone's yard that said "Trump is a Fascist (and an alien from outer space)".

Thought it was hilarious

The Bellemeade factor.

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The Bellemeade factor.

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Yes.

I've been to their galas and political fundraisers. My wife works for a company owned by a 35 year old heiress to some old money.

These people have "frick you" money.

The democrats elected are usually the ones that agree to play ball with their demands when called upon. Karl Dean was a great mayor IMO and a Democrat, and would just feed the masses little bits of liberal agenda like decriminalizing weed and paving roads in the ghetto, but the under the radar major policy was all conservative driven. De-regulation on commercial development city wide, removed gentrification restrictions in neighborhoods, etc.

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but there is big, old money here that still runs shite.

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Are most in Franklin?

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Are most in Franklin?

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A lot are moving that way, but Belle Meade is still the real old money.

Even the Franklin'ites with major dough are very intertwined with Nashville politics because they don't want bad policy to encroach on their way of life...and most work and own businesses in Nashville.

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Pretty much. But, their overly pretentious attitudes make Uptown NOLA look a trailer park in backwoods Alabama.

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Its pretty comparable IMO. But its definitely pretentious AF. I've had interaction with both as my mom is from an Uptown/Sacred Heart old New Orleans family.

There's more of an uppity faux religious thing going on here though. They try to hide their vices more and are more hypocritical.

I went to an engagement party a few months back at a ~$15 million dollar house that had a 3,000 sq ft pool house

The entire basement was MASSIVE and full functioning art gallery with a private curator that would give tours. The house is tucked away in Belle Meade and fairly inconspicuous from the street too.

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Owned by a big commercial developer that was friends with the bride's dad and obviously just liked to host parties as much as he could to show off.

But that is an example of a person that is under the radar, but when something political might affect him, he makes power moves.

You'll get asked where you go to church pretty quickly when you meet some of these people.

It's such an interesting dynamic in this city with those people and the rich entertainment folks with entirely different outlooks on morality/life choices. They live in some of the same neighborhoods.