re: Monthly JFK thread - Carlos Marcello

I don't think there's any doubt he was the only shooter.

But to say he acted alone in the overall plot to kill JFK is ignorant.

Damn, that's a nice place

I'm curious what JFK's planned schedule was after 11/22. I can't find anything on that. Supposedly there were two attempts that were scrapped before Dallas according to some folks - one in Chicago and one in Tampa. If the Dallas attempt had been similarly scrapped, I wonder what may have been the next possibility.
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I don't know his full schedule, but I think he was going to have turkey for dinner on Thursday. There may have also been cranberry sauce on the menu.

Gold fixtures and an elevator - no secret passages though.

Was never proven, but many feel it was torched for the insurance. Guy that bought it thought he could flip it and make a killing. Couldn't unload it and was in over his head.

I mean, what kind of break is even possible?

Jack Ruby killed Oswald and then died of like 50 different cancers soon thereafter. Guy Bannister died of a heart attack in '64. George de Mohrenschildt blew his brains out with a shotgun in '77. David Ferrie died of a cerebral hemmorage in '67 the day the news of the Garrison investigation broke to the press. Marcello had a bunch of strokes in '89 and died in a nursing home in Florida in '93, but he was a mob boss and never going to say shite anyway. Marina is still alive in Rockwall, but if she said anything at this point it'd basically be self incriminating since she was likely an intelligemce asset as well and that would be the undoing of her whole subsequent normal life and land her in prison or deported to Russia, so fat chance of that.

Nobody else, who isn't the kind of deep dark shadow of an operator of the type that would want their involvement in that whole world to remain hidden, would really know much. These sorts of things are compartmentalized. That crucial to understand. It's not like James Bond where the baddy tells everyone involved his whole plan. Almost everyone involved wouldn't have even known there was a thing they were working on, much less what it was. If you operate in that world it's need-to-know. And mostly you need to know nothing at all. You owe some people a favor and one day they tell you "take this package here" or "fly a guy from X to Y at such-and-such date and time" or "leave out a badge that can be stolen on Thursday". Everyone does a little bit part, asks no questions, and never talks about it because there's nothing to say.

Plus, it was a long time ago.

There isn't going to be anyone coming forward. There are no breaks yet to be revealed aside from whatever gets unsealed next year. We'll see whats in the files in 2017.

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The motorcade route was changed in order to go through that very slow-speed 90plus angle turn for exactly that reason

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I can tell you've never been to Dallas. You can't access the freeway to the Trade Mart unless you make that turn. The limo would've had to jump curbing separating Commerce, Main and Elm streets to cut across... not possible.

Someone also asked where JFK was headed after Dallas... he was supposed to speak in Austin.

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Was never proven, but many feel it was torched for the insurance.

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Couple of friends were volunteer fireman that responded to the fire, said it was a professional torch job.

If you don't mind me asking, how did a wealthy oilman from Oklahoma end up building a mansion in Breaux Bridge?

Heard the same. Also, our head groundskeeper/maintenance man while I lived there (P.C.) is alleged to have been in on it. He had developed a problem with the bottle, and on more than one occasion fessed up about setting it for the owner. Also seemed to coincide with several financial purchases he made that were clearly beyond his means without some influx of outside funds.


Sounds ignorant on my part, but I have no clue why he chose to move down here. I'm guessing due to business interests in the area. Also, the house was already partially built when my parents first saw it.

Not a penny. He was a college dropout and self-made, and the only explanation is that it never occurred to him that the government could ever take everything - especially when he didn't do anything wrong.

Ended up being acquitted on all of the original charges involving racketeering/fraud, and was found guily on conspiracy/obstructing justice (trying to cover his arse once all of this started).

There was a point right before everything was frozen/seized where him & mom contemplated grabbing us and fleeing to Switzerland. Everything was in place and good to go (a la Marc Rich, who was later pardoned by Clinton), but he decided to stay and fight it because he was operating from the mindset of being innocent. Feds took it all brother - houses, cars, businesses, jets, hotels, accounts.

The sadly ironic part of the entire sutuation, is that oil price control regulation didn't work (this was the basis of the original charges). After Reagan was elected, the entire system was scrapped. Laissez faire economics - keep the damn government regulations out and everything will run smoother.

U.S. Sues Oilman

Negative. Served a couple of years in prison. Government watched him like a hawk once released because they always thought he had stashed some funds, and no business wanted to be associated with someone who was a convicted felon, in addition to bringing down extra heat/scrutiny of prying IRS/DOE eyes. Passed about seven years ago without a penny.