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Posted on 4/21/14 at 10:06 pm to 504Voodoo
A few hours before the show, I think.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 10:07 pm to Gmorgan4982
Man that sucks
Posted on 4/21/14 at 10:07 pm to 504Voodoo
Earlier today
Posted on 4/21/14 at 10:08 pm to jdd48
ended kind of early but since they obiously won't let wyatt win over cena clean or otherwise.....ill take the DQ
Posted on 4/21/14 at 11:58 pm to Wishnitwas1998
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ended kind of early but since they obiously won't let wyatt win over cena clean or otherwise.....ill take the DQ
This RAW was atrocious, and you can see Vince pulling the reins back again. They had so much going for them, and they're falling back into their old ways again.
What the hell is WWE's fascination with RVD? He can't wrestle. He's not gonna sell merch or PPVs, and they make the entire roster job to him. It's a joke, and I'm fully expecting him to leave ER with the IC Belt. Has he lost clean once since returning? Dude looks worse than he did in TNA, where he also didn't lose to anyone. Such a prick.
Wyatts vs Cena was a joke. They're stomping out that candle pretty fast. Bray is destined for mid-card purgatory despite being one of their best all around talents they've had in awhile. He literally does it all very well with this character. Jobs at Mania with little help, and then jobs on RAW in a 3v1 match? Wow.
Extreme Rules could very easily have Shield/Bray losing and RVD rolling out with the IC belt. At that point, I'm done for awhile.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 12:14 am to ShamelessPel
Bro.......take a breath
First of all, yes RVD has losses since he can back and there's almost 0% chance he wins the IC title, in fact I doubt he makes it to the title match
As far as Wyatt, he didn't job at all to Cena tonight. It was a dirty finish we a DQ, protects both of them going into ER and if I had to pick to day I say Bray wins through some shenanigans after putting over Cena in a helluva match at mania (also not jobbing)
Not trying to single you out, but a lot of ppl need to learn what the term "jobbing" actually means
This raw was by no means "atrocious" and I thought pretty good overal
First of all, yes RVD has losses since he can back and there's almost 0% chance he wins the IC title, in fact I doubt he makes it to the title match
As far as Wyatt, he didn't job at all to Cena tonight. It was a dirty finish we a DQ, protects both of them going into ER and if I had to pick to day I say Bray wins through some shenanigans after putting over Cena in a helluva match at mania (also not jobbing)
Not trying to single you out, but a lot of ppl need to learn what the term "jobbing" actually means
This raw was by no means "atrocious" and I thought pretty good overal
Posted on 4/22/14 at 4:35 am to Wishnitwas1998
Jobbing is more like what Dolph ziggler has been doing the past couple of months.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 9:16 am to oR33Do
Yep
Posted on 4/22/14 at 9:20 am to Wishnitwas1998
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First of all, yes RVD has losses since he can back and there's almost 0% chance he wins the IC title, in fact I doubt he makes it to the title match
Clean losses? Against whom might I ask?
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after putting over Cena in a helluva match at mania (also not jobbing)
You can't be serious here. I didn't know Cena was in desperate need of being "put over". You're basically creating your own definition of "jobbing" that fits your points.
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Not trying to single you out, but a lot of ppl need to learn what the term "jobbing" actually means
Please, preach. You don't think that Wyatt being 1 second away from getting pinned in a 3v1 handicap match is bad for his image? They were actually chanting "you can't wrestle" at the end of RAW and commentary was squashing Wyatt the entire match.
Cesaro and Wyatt still lost. However you want to put it whether it's clean or not. Both came out looking worse than before. Wyatt may win at Extreme Rules but no way he wins clean. Which does very little to help him after losing to Cena clean at Mania and almost getting pinned in a 3v1 match on RAW.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 9:21 am to Wishnitwas1998
They are not going to let RVD win after building up Barrett with his own Bad News sideshow.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 9:23 am to Cajun Revolution
Wade is also going to beat Big E. and cleanly.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 9:36 am to ShamelessPel
I'm tired of this John Cena crap. I may not buy merchandise but I enjoy the show. It's almost a joke at this point whether Cena will win.
I really like Wyatt but wish they'd introduce his group and fight with Shield or something besides Cena. Either Cena turns heel or he keeps acting like a buffoon. Obviously he isn't turning to move on.
I really like Wyatt but wish they'd introduce his group and fight with Shield or something besides Cena. Either Cena turns heel or he keeps acting like a buffoon. Obviously he isn't turning to move on.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 9:47 am to Cajun Revolution
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I'm tired of this John Cena crap. I may not buy merchandise but I enjoy the show. It's almost a joke at this point whether Cena will win.
I really like Wyatt but wish they'd introduce his group and fight with Shield or something besides Cena. Either Cena turns heel or he keeps acting like a buffoon. Obviously he isn't turning to move on.
There was absolutely ZERO sense in having him "put over" Cena at Wrestlemania. He had Cena on the ropes mentally and physically leading up to it. They could have created an instant main eventer with the win at Mania, and Cena could have come back and saved face by going apeshit on Wyatt on the ensuing RAWs and Extreme Rules. When are they going to realize that a) the people who buy Cena's merchandise are sympathetic to him when he loses, not apathetic and b) Cena can legitimately "put over" any wrestler in their company and have him come back and main event.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 9:58 am to ShamelessPel
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They could have created an instant main eventer with the win at Mania
I like Cesaro but this guy is still playing in Class C. They need to sort out this Real Americans feud and let him move on. Get him some actual music and entrance theme. Paul Heyman coming out and yelling about Brock Lesnar is getting muted.
Nice job WWE having taker fall to Lesnar. Nothing like having someone that never actually wrestles at RAW do that. Then promoing him with a live character with another wrestler on stage.
Santino is waste of a roster spot. I can't believe they let that goofball out the sandpit. Some on here swear Fandango is a good wrestler out the sheets. I'm not seeing it. crappy gimmick that could have worked in 2009 when Dancing with Stars was getting huge.
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 10:03 am to Cajun Revolution
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Get him some actual music and entrance theme. Paul Heyman coming out and yelling about Brock Lesnar is getting muted.
did you watch last night? he has music. it's awful.
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Fandango is a good wrestler out the sheets. I'm not seeing it
Johnny Curtis is great. Emma is too but they have her doing all this stupid shite. frick Santino is a good wrestler.
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 10:07 am to Cajun Revolution
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Santino is waste of a roster spot.
They need to keep him around as Rusev's partner for when they eventually bury Rusev and send him out with Santino to do comic relief.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 10:10 am to ShamelessPel
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There was absolutely ZERO sense in having him "put over" Cena at Wrestlemania. He had Cena on the ropes mentally and physically leading up to it. They could have created an instant main eventer with the win at Mania, and Cena could have come back and saved face by going apeshit on Wyatt on the ensuing RAWs and Extreme Rules.
The whole point of the feud is for Bray to try to bring the monster out of Cena. He is trying to get Cena to hit with a chair or just go apeshit on him. That would be a "win" for Bray. A pin means nothing to him. The guy is way over right now. Everything he's doing is working.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 10:15 am to Brosef Stalin
Yeah their WrstleMania match was phenomenal storytelling. Wyatt was essentially Ledger's Joker to Cena's Bale Batman, trying to get him to cross that line that Cena has always been hesitant to cross.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 10:59 am to Brosef Stalin
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d an instant main eventer with the win at Mania, and Cena could have come back and saved face by going apeshit on Wyatt on the ensuing RAWs and Extreme Rules.
Considering it was mania, he's Cena, and the crowd was about to see one of the most shocking endings in history i can see an argument to have the good guy go over in that match. And why can't they just do the opposite with Bray? Have him continue to frick with Cena's head and have him go over at ER leading to a slow and steady push?
But please, continue to ignore the big picture
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The whole point of the feud is for Bray to try to bring the monster out of Cena. He is trying to get Cena to hit with a chair or just go apeshit on him. That would be a "win" for Bray. A pin means nothing to him. The guy is way over right now. Everything he's doing is working.
Don't even try explaining it to him man, pretty obvious he doesn't have much wrestling knowledge let alone awareness of simple storylines
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