re: Millennials earn 20% less than Boomers did at same stage of life

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College kids these days dont want the face to face contact and just want to sit behind a computer screen.

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this may be the most sensible thing you have ever said.

Yet, Millennials with a college degree are making a 66% premium over those that don't....

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Most of the people who don't have jobs right now (4 months before graduation) aren't willing to move.

I took a job in Houston, while fielding offers from Dallas, Seattle, NYC, and NOLA. Lots of my friends couldn't believe I would even consider moving.

dumb is dumb.

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if you want a halfway decent job you bet your arse you better be willing to move

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That's the problem. College kids these days dont want the face to face contact and just want to sit behind a computer screen.

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You mean like virtually every white collar job out there?

absolutely. That's for any field though, but especially CM. I pursued those cities I listed because they are all home to big companies, and also their pay rates are higher. Granted, Seattle's and NYC's COL negates that, but there are companies in Houston, Dallas, and Florida that were willing to start at 62k/year. Thats vs. 50k here in BR.

Also my classmates are too damn picky. One of the snowflakes in my sr. project group received an offer from a pretty reputable contractor based here in BR. Only catch is that they wanted to pay him hourly for the first 6 months to a year because he had no experience.

He said thanks but I want a salaried position. Dumbass. odds are he would have been guaranteed 10-20 hours of OT a week.

Definitely true. And I agree that there's a such thing as picking a poor degree. It is just different than it used to be.

Anyone who has worked in an office environment is probably familiar with the stereotypical women in their 50s without college degrees who have worked for the company for 30+ years doing basic admin stuff. Years ago, you had men working in specialized fields or working a trade and you had women holding receptionist and admin positions, which contributed 30% or so of the household income. Today, those positions are requiring experience and college degrees and paying the same low salary they paid these unskilled/uneducated ladies.

I always wonder about what women do when these discussions come up because a woman without a specialized degree is even more limited than a man because she can't go work just any manual labor job or trade. A woman can't go learn HVAC because she can't carry an air conditioner down from an attic. A woman without a specialized degree/skill is pretty much destined to make $30k.

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Anyone who has worked in an office environment is probably familiar with the stereotypical women in their 50s without college degrees who have worked for the company for 30+ years doing basic admin stuff. Years ago, you had men working in specialized fields or working a trade and you had women holding receptionist and admin positions, which contributed 30% or so of the household income. Today, those positions are requiring experience and college degrees and paying the same low salary they paid these unskilled/uneducated ladies.

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In the 50s, college grads were few in number. The pctg has probably tripled since then. Men generally performed labor, women worked in offices doing clerical work.

Again, you can make more (starting pay) today as a skilled laborer than you can office clerk or other business related field.

A union master electrician up here makes just shy of $50 an hour.

I blame myself for my bad grades. I accepted a long time ago that I'm not a person who can get straight A's....or straight B's. I'm just happy passing, and there's nothing I can do to make my grades better. That's my problem. That doesn't negate the fact that the jobs aren't there because the economy sucks.

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That's the problem. College kids these days dont want the face to face contact and just want to sit behind a computer screen.

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100% of the recent grads in this thread have expressed hatred for the online application process and having HR choose candidates for jobs they know nothing about. Not sure where you got that.

Maybe if companies ditched the online application process, they'd get better, more personable employees who are committed to do what they set out to do. By doing that, you force them to come in and get the job. Those are the people who want to work. The current way just leads to them submitting 30+ applications a day and hoping to get a response email.

I can respect that.

I agree about online applications. The application process has become less and less personal over time and that's a bad thing IMO. I'd rather get a handshake and a look in the eye from a prospective employee than a computer generated list.