re: Middle aged women complaining about everything epidemic

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cleaning a 300 sqft hotel room is a hell of a lot different than cleaning a 2000 sqft home with three bedrooms.

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But they have at least 100 hotel rooms to clean - it sounded like you were talking about the difficulty of cleaning a 2000 sq Ft house vs a 300 sq ft room

I’m just curious as to why there is an additional cleaning fee? Why can’t the nightly cost cover the fee? Then no customer would complain about the ‘fee’.

I’ve never had much trouble with air bnb but the last few times, when I’ve been shopping around - they’ve been significantly more expensive than a hotel - and my plan is not to hang out wherever I rent, so I’ll put up with less space because chances are I’m only showering and sleeping there.

Plus, I’m going on vacation - I really don’t want to have to accomplish a list of demands from someone making a profit off of me. If I want to clean a 2000 sq Ft home like I already do, then I’ll just stay home.

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That's why you hire a crew of spic & spans.

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ocean is also hiring a crew of spic & spans - making sure he makes his profit AND passing along the cleaning fee to the customer as well - just like a hotel does

So I’m going with the free breakfast buffet

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If you book a hotel that has a kitchen and you leave your hotel with a sink full of dishes, you're just a douche. Same goes for an Airbnb. We don't ask guests to clean dishes, and we charge a small cleaning fee, but leaving a hotel or Airbnb with a sink full of dishes is just a dick move.

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you'll never let anyone convince you that you're the douchebag


but YOU are the douchebag


you want to get paid and you want your guests to do the cleanup work

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ocean is also hiring a crew of spic & spans - making sure he makes his profit AND passing along the cleaning fee to the customer as well - just like a hotel does

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I have stated multiple times in here that we do not ask guests to clean up before they leave. Our only ask if that they put the trash can at the curb. We don't even penalize guests for not doing that if they don't.

However, if you don't clean up after yourself either in a hotel or an airbnb, then you have minimal consideration for other people and are likely a slob. Like our pal Odysseus who would leave his hotel room or airbnb with a sink full of dishes. That is a dick move. Entitlement, that is the entire point of the thread.

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Without airbnb, their business would likely not exist.

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lol because there are no other places that need cleaning

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I also make no money on the cleaning fee.

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no but you are on the nightly rental fee … and that’s a lot more than the cleaning fee

Am I supposed to feel sorry for you or something? You just made $2200 off of me but had to eat $20 because Wilma charges $160 but you only listed $140 along with taking out trash, refill toilet paper, fluff pillows, wash the sheets on cold, make sure they are in the dryer before check out, and leave every other light on the track lighting on??

Gimme a break

AND my 14 & 15 year olds are considered adults????

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The hypothetical Sam Walton has created a generation of entitled pussies. Take out your fricking garbage. It takes minimal effort.

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This is why you're a failure

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you're "not including" the cleaning price in the rental price, because you want to gain the business with a "rental rate" that is "lower" because you're hiding the cleaning cost till later.

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Have you ever booked an airbnb before? The cleaning fee shows up when you go to book the unit. Or you can pick the option that shows the nightly rate that includes all of the additional fees/costs.

I'm beginning to think you're just an idiot. Go to airbnb, pick a random city with random dates. Let me know if the cleaning fee is hidden. Hint: it is not.

Odysseus has jumped off a cliff with his delivery, but I think the issue here really boils down to expectation.

I'm a dream hotel guest. When I check out of a hotel, all towels are neatly piled in the bathroom for pickup. If it has a kitchenette, any dishes used are washed and put away, or on a drying rack, or moved to the dishwasher. All trash is in appropriate trash cans. I leave my key card on the table. Etc.

I mostly do all of this because I keep a clean space myself and have no desire to spend any time in squalor just because someone else is paid to deal with it. I'm also a bleeding heart to a fault when it comes to service employees.

But if I went to a hotel, and there was a long list of demands that I do all of this when I'm paying for them to employ housekeepers, I would be annoyed by it.