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re: Middle aged males on antidepressants?

Posted on 8/24/20 at 1:32 pm to
Posted by YoubeHillin
Lake charles
Member since Sep 2019
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Posted on 8/24/20 at 1:32 pm to
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n a low dosage of SSRI at the moment (it's my first time on any type of medication for mental health). It isnt a fix but the ups and downs are not as intense. I don't get super angry or sad. I will be getting off of them as soon as possible so I purposely chose a low dosage


Why would you take yourself off if it helps you stabilize your mood? I mean I'm just curious if you had a negative experience or just dont like the idea of being on meds. Depression is a neurodegenerative process..left untreated could have negative long term effects on working memory and overall cognition. We know this from post mortum brain autopsies. Its definitely associated with elevated inflammatory markers and elevated levels of cortisol (which messes up the Hippocampal (memory) Pituitary Adrenal axis). Untreated depression is associated with significantly elevated risk for heart disease and stroke.

I mean no medication is without side effects, including ssri's. But risk vs benefit is overwhelmingly in favor of treatment.

This is all to say that I worry that people avoid seeking treatment or take themselves off of working regimens due to the stigma of being on them. You certainly wouldn't quit taking your insulin if you had diabetes or baby aspirin if you were high stroke risk. Stigma sucks. Just remember that one of the manliest men ever to walk the earth and fricking national treasure, Earnest Hemingway, blew his god damn brains out because he never got help.
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
33293 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 1:54 pm to
That’s really good feedback and well said. I just turned 40 and I told my wife my mantra was going to be fixing the things on the back half of my life I didn’t do on the first half.

I’ve always kind of had a tough man mentality that I can beat this and I don’t need that. I’m super strict with nutrition and work out every day and went to a cardiologist last year for the first time I found out I have a ton of plaque in my arteries. I have heart disease in my family and they were all super anxious so it really made sense to me.

I think this thread is an example of why I’m so overwhelmed. You asked 10 people and you get 10 answers on antidepressants. I just want to start with the one with the least side effects to get my life back to normal. Like others have said it might not be that simple in the first one I try
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9956 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 2:01 pm to
Serious question, has anyone tried pursuing an intense physical activity before turning to drugs?

I, at 34, was about to go the drug route but decided to pick up an out-door hobby. Never looked back.

It is quite the transformation inside my body when pushed to its limits. Mentally, its night and day.
This post was edited on 8/24/20 at 2:03 pm
Posted by Mr. Misanthrope
Cloud 8
Member since Nov 2012
6346 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 2:15 pm to
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Basically if I take care of the pain will my depression go away or if my depression goes away with the pain get better?

I'm thinking the yoga that you mentioned or some such other physical activity is crucial.

Physical pain I can live with. With it comes a different kind of mental weariness that, for me, is frankly much easier to deal with than the anxiety.

Panic attacks that convinced and overwhelmed my mind and body with the notion I was dying were unacceptable. And for me meds were not the solution.

You seem to have a strong will and determination to beat the crap out of this thing. Remember Churchill..."Never quit. Never quit. Never quit."
Posted by Jon A thon
Member since May 2019
2407 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 2:20 pm to
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Serious question, has anyone tried pursuing an intense physical activity before turning to drugs?


I was literally doing half and full ironmans before starting with Sertraline. No doubt physical activity can help my mood, but it wasn't a cure when I got stressed and sometimes fitting in all the physical activity into my schedule caused more stress.

I had/have an anxiety issue. I can let the craziest things bother me to the point that I can be difficult to be around. I can keep it at bay around people I don't know very well as to not be embarrassed. But it affects the people I'm comfortable/close to the most. Really affected my marriage and relationship with my kid. I'm by no means fixed, but it certainly seems to have helped. I think of it the way it was described to me in that you don't have this switch that is flipped and you are better, but over time, others will probably notice it more than you do.

Now some of the side affects suck, but they aren't debilitating. Sleep was affected at first, but I think I've just gotten used to it. Sex drive was noticeably lower initially, but again seems to be alright after getting used to it. The worst is missing taking it. One day isn't so bad, but go on a trip and forget it at home and I'd have problems. If I ever go off of it, I'd have to ween myself off. Full dose to nothing is hard to describe. I'm tossing and turning in bed...something is just making my skin crawl. No way to get comfortable. I just try to never miss a day.
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
33293 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 2:37 pm to
With guys that suffer anxiety does it feel like your nerves are just always on fire and you can’t sit still? For me that’s my worst thing is I can’t focus on anything or complete a task. It’s even hard to sit still and type out an email or respond to text.

If so please post what has helped
Posted by Langland
Trumplandia
Member since Apr 2014
15382 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 2:52 pm to
Go to a chiropractor.
Posted by YoubeHillin
Lake charles
Member since Sep 2019
671 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 5:13 pm to
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went to a cardiologist last year for the first time I found out I have a ton of plaque in my arteries. I have heart disease in my family 


depression as independent risk factor for CAD. SSRI's inhibit platelet aggregation through novel mechanism = win win

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A relationship between depressive symptoms and increased platelet activity has been established in physically healthy depressed patients15-17 as well as in postmyocardial infarction (MI) depressed patients.8,18 T


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decrease in platelet/plasma 5-HT level and diminution of 5-HT-lnduced aggregation are the markers which were more often modified upon antldepresslve treatment, in line with the central role of this neurotransmitter in primary hemostasis.9,26,30 Thus, prospective studies clearly Indicate that antidepressants modify primary hemostasis. 



Posted by YoubeHillin
Lake charles
Member since Sep 2019
671 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 5:15 pm to
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chiropractor


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