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re: “Mental health” is stupid

Posted on 6/2/21 at 11:47 am to
Posted by td01241
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Posted on 6/2/21 at 11:47 am to
It screams narcissism to be adamant you know more than people who spent many years training in the field and have access to the most cutting edge information. Fyi
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 6/2/21 at 11:49 am to
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Therapy is showing more and more efficacious as compared to long term medication for common mental health problems. I say that as someone who takes the medical approach. Therapist have value.



FWIW, I don’t discount the medication interventions when it’s needed. There’s certainly some disorders that can’t result in a functional being without medication intervention. I happily work and refer to psychiatrist in those cases but am a firm believer in it takes a combination of cognitive therapy and meds for the best success.
Posted by Prominentwon
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Posted on 6/2/21 at 11:52 am to
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I think there’s a deeper issue for all these “mental health”


So you don’t buy into mental health, but you think there’s a “deeper issue” with what’s going on with society? By deeper issue, what are you insinuating? A “deeper issue” is a straightline correlation with mental health.
Posted by OleWar
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Posted on 6/2/21 at 11:52 am to
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Depending on the theory


How many theories are there?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 6/2/21 at 11:55 am to
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I’m dismissing your ignorant assumption that all therapists are narcissist and only in it for themselves


I don't believe this to be true. However, the entire industry is self promoting, sometimes to the detriment of normalcy. But, if people pay or insurance pays, keep them coming. People become dependent on therapy, therapist is happy to oblige.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
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Posted on 6/2/21 at 11:56 am to
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How many theories are there?


In the entire history of the field?
Posted by OleWar
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Posted on 6/2/21 at 11:56 am to
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It screams narcissism to be adamant you know more than people who spent many years training in the field and have access to the most cutting edge information.


I don't deny I might be, that's why it sometimes takes one to know one.
Posted by OleWar
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Posted on 6/2/21 at 11:57 am to
Medically or Academically accepted today?
Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
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Posted on 6/2/21 at 11:57 am to
I'll just give you a well deserved downvote and be on my way.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
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Posted on 6/2/21 at 11:57 am to
Are you asking me what your question was now?
Posted by rebel cat
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Posted on 6/2/21 at 11:57 am to
Lithium, lamictal and Xanax.
Posted by OleWar
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Posted on 6/2/21 at 12:00 pm to
Yes I am refining my question, I am not interested in historical theories that are no longer used. How many theories are there today that inform practice?
Posted by td01241
Savannah
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Posted on 6/2/21 at 12:01 pm to
Lithium is a bit outdated because of its side effects but it’s effective. Hope you have blood drawn for renal function and lithium levels often.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 6/2/21 at 12:06 pm to
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How many theories are there?


There’s 4-6 major schools of “theory” (Behaviorism, Psychodynamic, Cognitive, and Humanistic) with hundreds of theories under those umbrellas. Some of the most popular ones are Cognitive-Behavioral Therapy (CBT), Rational Emotive, Reality, Mindfulness-Based, Solution-Focused, Narrative, EMDR, Client-Centered, etc.

And it depends on what population you’re working with. If you’re working with young kids, there’s play therapy with focus in different theories like Adlerian or CBT. Same goes with couples and varying theories/orientations that work with couples.
This post was edited on 6/2/21 at 12:07 pm
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 6/2/21 at 12:08 pm to
There are six as labeled but those really are more fields / branches / classification of models I suppose. Each has a large number of underlying theories or members which comprise the overall set.

Posted by rebel cat
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 6/2/21 at 12:09 pm to
It’s old but you’re wrong. It has few side effects. It has no side effects for me. It is known as the gold standard for mental meds.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 6/2/21 at 12:12 pm to
I’m not wrong . I’m happy it has few side effects for you, it carries risk degrees though depending on your age and health. It’s why blood work is recommended quarterly. It’s possibly the gold standard for effectiveness but not recommended for some, depending on age and health factors.
Posted by OleWar
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Posted on 6/2/21 at 12:16 pm to
So serious question, and I am familiar with a couple of them that are wildly different in assumptions. How can a mode of therapy be accepted vs another from a medical standpoint. This "science" seems no different than a "political scientist" giving ideological advice.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Posted on 6/2/21 at 12:17 pm to
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A lot realize they can say that and get away with a lot of shite too.

That's not minimizing mental health, but you have your head in the sand if you don't think that's a pretty big problem.


Are some people using it as a crutch? I'm sure.

Just like some people cheat on their taxes, file for fraudulent unemployment benefits, etc.

But I'm not in a position to be able to tell the difference, especially on the surface. So I'll assume they have a legit issue, until proven otherwise.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 6/2/21 at 12:24 pm to
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So serious question, and I am familiar with a couple of them that are wildly different in assumptions. How can a mode of therapy be accepted vs another from a medical standpoint


Theories develop over time to include research and evidence-based modalities. But no theory is a catch all for every single mental health diagnosis, just like no medical treatment is a catch all for every single physiological medical issue. We don’t give someone ibuprofen for a pulled muscle and cancer. It’s the same concept. Some mental health diagnoses need more intensive therapy of longer duration/intensity.

For instance, I might use Mindfulness-Based with a client that has mild anxiety but I wouldn’t use it for one that PTSD and needs more intensive therapy.
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