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re: Meetings for Nicholson Tram scheduled this week.

Posted on 2/29/16 at 3:04 pm to
Posted by LSU fan 246
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Posted on 2/29/16 at 3:04 pm to
The last thread had people saying the workers downtown are going to be using it. Why are the workers downtown going to be using it? To go to LSU?
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 2/29/16 at 3:04 pm to
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When are they going downtown?

They arent going during the day during the week, they dont go during weekdays at night, and they dont go much during the weekends.

Downtown 3rd street on weekend nights is filled with central, zachary, baker etc people. During the week its a ghost town.


Its all relative.

They used to NEVER EVER go down there. It wasn't even an option as there was nothing there. They do occasionally now. Fraternities even rent out B&T's, or used to, for their parties. Seen lots of college kids at Tsunami happy hour and on weekends at the bars. One of the biggest issues was transportation and this would resolve that.

Making that whole corridor more appealing is a good thing IMO. A better downtown would result and that is very important for the city.

Plus it gives drunk students a safe free/cheap ride.

ETA:

Even when I was still in college in 2011 more and more people were starting to go downtown. The biggest issue we always heard was "how are we getting there and back?". Uber has helped, this will help even more. Connecting LSU to downtown is a good thing.
This post was edited on 2/29/16 at 3:07 pm
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73729 posts
Posted on 2/29/16 at 3:08 pm to
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The last thread had people saying the workers downtown are going to be using it. Why are the workers downtown going to be using it? To go to LSU


When the apartment/condo economy around LSU collapses after the TOPS revamp young professionals will scoop them up. They needs a way to get downtown.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101938 posts
Posted on 2/29/16 at 3:10 pm to
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Who is going to occupy the Water Campus?
Why do they need a Tram to get to LSU or to Downtown?



As far as I know it's a Fed/State/Private joint venture, so presumably there could/would be a lot of movement between that and LSU or state offices downtown.

I don't know for sure, though.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 2/29/16 at 3:10 pm to
quote:

One of the biggest issues was transportation and this would resolve that.


The biggest issue was there was nothing down there to go to. Now there is and transportation isnt a problem, especially with something like Uber. College students also have no problem getting into a car and driving.

quote:

Making that whole corridor more appealing is a good thing IMO. A better downtown would result and that is very important for the city.



It is a good thing imo but I dont think this tram will get a ton of use.

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Plus it gives drunk students a safe free/cheap ride.



They had the drunk bus when I was in school and no one ever used it. LSU students as a whole arent going to use public transportation except to get to school during the day.

Typical scenario on a Friday night for LSU students. Everyone meets at my apartment to have some drinks before going out. Everyone is ready to go out. Hey lets go wait at the bus stop for 20 minutes for the bus/tram....not going to happen. Someone is going to say screw it im driving and we will deal with the driving situation later.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 2/29/16 at 3:11 pm to
bicycles, duh.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101938 posts
Posted on 2/29/16 at 3:11 pm to
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Minor thread hijack: Has anyone ever stepped foot in that shitty little bar where that construction is going on? I never even knew it existed until I saw it while walking on Nicholson from the stadium.


No, I have not. Pass by it all the time, maybe will have to stop in one day. As long as it's daylight and I have a few friends with me.
Posted by GeorgeReymond
Buckhead
Member since Jan 2013
10188 posts
Posted on 2/29/16 at 3:12 pm to
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It's hard to envision, though, how long it could possibly take for a two mile or so stretch of town that is now basically a dead zone to have enough population to justify the huge expense of and realistically support such an endeavor.


No it's really not. Some people just have it. They know when to invest and when not. They're called visionaries

Nicholson Gateway is scheduled for a 2018 completion, bringing 3-4 suite style dorms for upper classmen & graduate students. The area will also include retail, Foundation Building, and restaurants/bars.

The Standard (student living)& another student living complex was built in the last 2 years. LSU is also about to break ground on 2 additional dorms north of the Enchanted Forest.

This does not include the Water Campus and River House which have already broken ground.

Property values between downtown and LSU will only continue to increase.




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This post was edited on 2/29/16 at 3:17 pm
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101938 posts
Posted on 2/29/16 at 3:15 pm to
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They had the drunk bus when I was in school and no one ever used it.


I don't know about now, but back when it was created (early 2000s) it used to get pretty solid rider numbers. Uber might have put a big dent in it though.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 2/29/16 at 3:15 pm to
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The biggest issue was there was nothing down there to go to. Now there is and transportation isnt a problem, especially with something like Uber. College students also have no problem getting into a car and driving.



DUI enforcement is bad and parking is bad. The game is changing.
There is stuff to do, but this will lead to MORE stuff to do. It will improve downtown's economy, paving the way for new businesses to open up.

quote:

They had the drunk bus when I was in school and no one ever used it. LSU students as a whole arent going to use public transportation except to get to school during the day.

Typical scenario on a Friday night for LSU students. Everyone meets at my apartment to have some drinks before going out. Everyone is ready to go out. Hey lets go wait at the bus stop for 20 minutes for the bus/tram....not going to happen. Someone is going to say screw it im driving and we will deal with the driving situation later.


I understand this and it was similar with us, but driving downtown was a different animal at LSU. Also, the world is changing about shite like this IMO and a street car between just LSU and downtown won't have the same "poor people/nasty" stigma as a bus IMO.

I still think its a good idea, especially if Louisiana isn't footing most of the bill.

We'll see what happens if its built.
Posted by Asgard Device
The Daedalus
Member since Apr 2011
11562 posts
Posted on 2/29/16 at 3:17 pm to
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If it is free, students will use the hell out of it.



There's already a bus that runs that exact route and is free. It's often times empty.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101962 posts
Posted on 2/29/16 at 3:17 pm to
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Some people are just visionaries.



Less are without free money.

Hey, I'm all for growth and improvement too. It seems to be about 50 years coming for that area - it was always inexplicable to me how awful it has been for so long.

I still don't think a few hundred extra people (that's all we're really talking about under the most optimistic assumptions of what you're laying out) justify such a huge expenditure in the 10s of millions of dollars for "transportation" that most will never use that often under any assumption or scenario.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 2/29/16 at 3:17 pm to
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I still think its a good idea, especially if Louisiana isn't footing most of the bill.



where is this money coming from?
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 2/29/16 at 3:18 pm to
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where is this money coming from?



The person that told me this could be wrong, so don't shoot me, but I was told that the federal government will pay for most of it.
Posted by bigrob385series
B. Aura
Member since May 2014
2634 posts
Posted on 2/29/16 at 3:18 pm to
Jesus,it's 3.4 miles....ride a fricking bike
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73729 posts
Posted on 2/29/16 at 3:19 pm to
Federal taxes you are paying no matter what, that will just be allocated elsewhere if this doesn't happen.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101938 posts
Posted on 2/29/16 at 3:19 pm to
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where is this money coming from?


Federal grant money, most likely.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73729 posts
Posted on 2/29/16 at 3:20 pm to
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ride a fricking bike


I have discovered bikes are beneath BR residents.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 2/29/16 at 3:21 pm to
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I have discovered bikes are beneath BR drivers and residents.



Its damn scary to ride a bike in Baton Rouge


ETA:

Also, until that area is "gentrified" a little, the chances of getting your bike taken are pretty damn high
This post was edited on 2/29/16 at 3:22 pm
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101938 posts
Posted on 2/29/16 at 3:22 pm to
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Jesus,it's 3.4 miles....ride a fricking bike


If you think anyone in their right mind would ride a bike down that stretch of Nicholson or Highland, especially at night after drinking, then you are nuts.
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