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re: Me too Movement
Posted on 8/2/19 at 4:29 pm to SSpaniel
Posted on 8/2/19 at 4:29 pm to SSpaniel
It's a shame you can't ever hear his side of this story. If she pretended to be asleep, then it's partially on her. If some guy or girl got in my bed that was unwanted and started touching me I'd tell them to GTFO.
Also, all women are different in how they get turned on or get sexually approached. What one girl enjoys can be vastly different than the next and that's another reason these are murky waters.
What if he thought she was awake the whole time and just playing it off? If that was truly his mindset, which I'd assume it was given the second she said no he backed off. If he was raping her, one no from her wouldn't likely fend him off immediately. People need to use common sense and there's two sides to every story.
Also, all women are different in how they get turned on or get sexually approached. What one girl enjoys can be vastly different than the next and that's another reason these are murky waters.
What if he thought she was awake the whole time and just playing it off? If that was truly his mindset, which I'd assume it was given the second she said no he backed off. If he was raping her, one no from her wouldn't likely fend him off immediately. People need to use common sense and there's two sides to every story.
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Posted on 8/2/19 at 4:29 pm to JodyPlauche
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Let's say that is you...you are laying there asleep and some guy does that to you and you wake up...How do you respond?
It’s kinda hard to say without hearing his side of the story.
What if they were flirting all day and kissed at some point.
Maybe she told him to come sneak in her room after everyone went to sleep.
That happens a lot.
We just don’t know his side of the story
Posted on 8/2/19 at 4:31 pm to tgrbaitn08
So, dude tried to get some and he was told no so he left? I guess I am missing something here.
Posted on 8/2/19 at 4:32 pm to Janky
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So, dude tried to get some and he was told no so he left?
Sounds like she let him get to 2nd base and when he tried to steal 3rd she picked him off so he went to the dugout.
Posted on 8/2/19 at 4:34 pm to tgrbaitn08
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Maybe she told him to come sneak in her room after everyone went to sleep.
Then my best guess...if we are just going to make random assumptions...is that if she asked him to sneak in after everyone went to sleep they would have probably had sex and we would not be hearing about it.
Posted on 8/2/19 at 4:35 pm to JodyPlauche
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Let's say that is you...you are laying there asleep and some guy does that to you and you wake up...How do you respond?
Tell them to GTFO...not pretend to be sleeping in hopes he leaves. Jesus Christ. The #MeToo movement should be about empowering women to say NO before something happens and not months or years after
Posted on 8/2/19 at 4:37 pm to Janky
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So, dude tried to get some and he was told no so he left? I guess I am missing something here.
The indecent assault he committed before being told no. He did not have consent to touch any erogenous zones. Had he laid in bed and given he a back rub he would not have crosses any lines.
Posted on 8/2/19 at 4:37 pm to CockyTime
I am so glad I am not growing up in today’s world.
Posted on 8/2/19 at 4:38 pm to JodyPlauche
If some dude tried to do that to me I would most likely be charged with assault and battery. Would it be assault if a woman did this to a man or would it get laughed at ?
Posted on 8/2/19 at 4:38 pm to Tiger Roux
Trillhog!! There you are!
Posted on 8/2/19 at 4:39 pm to JodyPlauche
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The indecent assault he committed before being told no. He did not have consent to touch any erogenous zones. Had he laid in bed and given he a back rub he would not have crosses any lines.
What if he truly thought she was awake the whole time and enjoying it? What if he thought if she was actually asleep he wouldn't be doing this? Would that change your opinion?
This #MeToo thing is always quick to blame the guy, but what if his mindset was right and he just totally misread the situation? Should he be labeled a rapist like someone who storms in there and physically rapes her despite her cries screaming no? I am all for the MeToo thing when its clearly warranted and a predator goes to jail. I am not for MEN not getting a chance to tell their side and getting prejudged by the rabid SJW world we live in today.
This post was edited on 8/2/19 at 4:43 pm
Posted on 8/2/19 at 4:40 pm to JodyPlauche
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Then my best guess...if we are just going to make random assumptions...is that if she asked him to sneak in after everyone went to sleep they would have probably had sex and we would not be hearing about it.
Guess we’ll never know since the man being accused of sexual assault is dead
Posted on 8/2/19 at 4:42 pm to CockyTime
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What if he truly thought she was awake the whole time and enjoying it? What if he thought if she was actually asleep he wouldn't be doing this? Would that change your opinion?
Then she probably would have participated or reacted positively instead of laying there like a dead fish. This isn’t that difficult to figure out.
Posted on 8/2/19 at 4:42 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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Some people don't have to have sex with sleeping people to get laid
If she was asleep or passed out, how does she have such a vivid memory of what transpired?
Serious question.
Posted on 8/2/19 at 4:43 pm to CockyTime
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What if he truly thought she was awake the whole time and enjoying it?
Yeah like what if she started breathing heavy and started moaning. That would tell me she’s enjoying it and is getting horny. Is he supposed to wait until she initiates the next move?
Posted on 8/2/19 at 4:43 pm to CockyTime
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What if he truly thought she was awake the whole time and enjoying it?
If he did not have consent to feel her up its indecent assault. It's not what he thinks or wants...its what she thinks and wants.
Posted on 8/2/19 at 4:46 pm to VABuckeye
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Then she probably would have participated or reacted positively instead of laying there like a dead fish. This isn’t th
I guess you've never hooked up with a girl you had to foreplay with a little more than the others? Seriously, sometimes I have to feel up the gf pretty good these days to get her in the right mood and preheat the oven a bit...she enjoys it. Am I committing rape when she just lets me feel her body and not reciprocating?
Posted on 8/2/19 at 4:47 pm to JodyPlauche
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If he did not have consent to feel her up its indecent assault. It's not what he thinks or wants...its what she thinks and wants.
If she was awake and didn't say no while doing this (like claimed) then it is reasonable to assume he thought she was awake during this time too. Are you saying that she has to verbally say "yes, please continue" to give consent?
Posted on 8/2/19 at 4:48 pm to CockyTime
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Should he be labeled a rapist like someone who storms in there and physically rapes her despite her cries screaming no?
She never accused him of rape.
Posted on 8/2/19 at 4:48 pm to Philippines4LSU
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If she was asleep or passed out, how does she have such a vivid memory of what transpired?
Serious question.
very good point
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