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re: Maybe we can all agree... There is a culture problem... It's not racism.

Posted on 3/16/15 at 11:07 am to
Posted by mahdragonz
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 3/16/15 at 11:07 am to
So eastern values are less superior than western ones?

You are too stupid to argue with.

Look at what you are typing your response on and tell me if it was manufactured in the west or east.
Posted by mahdragonz
Member since Jun 2013
7053 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 11:09 am to
I'm just not using all my feeeeeelings and emmmmmmmotions to make a value.

It's a neutral assessment that shows power confers meaning. Not that something has meaning in itself.
This post was edited on 3/16/15 at 11:11 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464873 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 11:09 am to
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Anytime I see someone post that stupidity, I just wonder, "what is it like to go through life so f'n open minded that you literally lose the ability to evaluate shite".

well it's important to certain worldviews

it's really popular when defending fundamentalist muslim nations

the next question is to ask what their goals of humanity are, and why they are against things like decreased child deaths, elevating the status of the poor, more freedom for females and minorities, protecting freedom of expression and speech, promoting art, etc.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293746 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 11:11 am to
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All about Socio economics bro


People are uncomfortable where they feel they don't fit in. They also need to have someone to feel superior to and it all comes down to socio economics and associated cultures.
Posted by broeho
Atlanta, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
1815 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 11:11 am to
isn't that exactly what he's saying?

The Western Culture (as you describe it) is the "Dominant Culture" in the world, but it is totally subjective as to whether or not it is actually a superior way of life.

Just to play devil's advocate, keep in mind that there are also negatives to our way of life, particularly environmental impacts and global warming (off the top of my head).
This post was edited on 3/16/15 at 11:14 am
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 11:11 am to
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Its a stupid argument bc as US citizen we need to respect authority placed above us. The fact of the matter is it against the law.


Terrible, terrible logic. Slavery used to be legal. Should slaves and abolitionists just respected authority and gone along with it?
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 11:13 am to
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So, since you say it is "meaningful", I'd like to know what you think it "means".


You guys have a capacity for something akin to a cognitive dissonance or denial (can't tell which) that I am truly taken aback by.

"Meaningful" as in some way reflective of the attitudes of some significant portion of the demographic that most frequents the board--in this case white southerners with a median age in the low-mid 30s and an above-average rate of university education. And to pretend as though that lopsided a margin is indicative of nothing borders on cowardice. I can go to the SEC rant, create a topic, and pretty accurately assess how it's going to be received. And believe it or not, that will be reflected in the up/down votes. I can make the same post on the rant and, predictably, get a different result. It is not a scientific study. But there is a lot of ground between conclusive and nothing. And I can assure you that the result in question is not nothing. SFP, who is a quality poster, just did an around the world on racial attitudes covering six continents in about three sentences, and that went unchallenged*, but you can dismiss something so simple and empirical as meaningless?


Come on, Shorty.

*I'll challenge it when I get the chance.

This post was edited on 3/16/15 at 11:15 am
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126573 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 11:14 am to
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A black poster got mad at me yesterday bc I said I wanted to congratulate black guys I see with their wife and kids eating at restaurants that I'm at with my family.
You just don't see it very often.
It's bc what you just posted.


bullshite

that depends on what part of the country you are in

maybe in what ever shite hole town you come from its what you see.

If you are in an area with middle to upper middle class blacks its not the norm.
This post was edited on 3/16/15 at 11:14 am
Posted by whoisnickdoobs
Lafayette
Member since Apr 2012
9352 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 11:14 am to
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when minimum wage is your best job opportunity, as an adult, then that speaks a lot about the choices you've made (assuming no biological defect)


Then they think they should be able to support a family of 4 off of a minimum wage job and expect us to raise the minimum wage for them to do so. The problem is they aren't smart enough to figure out how to get out of that rut because they were raised poor and uneducated.

After collecting unemployment, welfare, and food stamps it makes more since to live off the government than work for yourself. Minimum wage doesn't need to be raised... government assistance needs to be more limited. Paid sterilization needs to be offered & mandatory sterilization needs to be enforced by law for repeat criminals who also don't pay child support.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
58825 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 11:17 am to
It's a pretty arrogant idea regardless of its validity.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464873 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 11:17 am to
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So eastern values are less superior than western ones?

yes, if your goal is to advance humanity on earth

i enjoy lots of eastern philosophy and have for a long time, but there is often a conflict with that philosophy and progress

japan was the first asian country to develop western values. there is a reason japan became the dominant force in asia after

we had an experiment in asia in real time, where one side got ruled by a mix of east and socialism and the other side was given western values. who is doing better today: north korea or south korea?

after adopting western values, look at how fast China and India have come. amazing progress, and the people who feel it most are the poor. there are more options for the poor to elevate their station now than in the long history of either country
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464873 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 11:18 am to
quote:

The Western Culture (as you describe it) is the "Dominant Culture" in the world, but it is totally subjective as to whether or not it is actually a superior way of life.

it didn't stumble into becoming the dominant culture. it gained that place on the mantle for a reason
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464873 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 11:19 am to
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Then they think they should be able to support a family of 4 off of a minimum wage job

that's b/c the job options for those who chose to ignore the value of education are decreasing as our society advances

those inefficient factory jobs of the 60s and 70s are not options for this group anymore
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464873 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 11:20 am to
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It's a pretty arrogant idea regardless of its validity.

i defended his post yesterday while criticizing the way it was worded. his heart was in the right place, and we all know it's a hypothetical scenario (and it would never happen in reality), but if it did happen in reality, it would be pure douchechill
Posted by 337Tiger19
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Feb 2014
2474 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 11:21 am to
A lot of things black people continue to do, they do because they know it pisses white people off. They laugh at how everything in their communities is old and run down but people are worried about their clothes and the music they listen to.
Posted by mahdragonz
Member since Jun 2013
7053 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 11:21 am to
That poster has never been to a nice restaurant in Atlanta.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126573 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 11:21 am to
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It's a pretty arrogant idea regardless of its validity.



if some random dude came up to me and was like good job being a black guy supporting your family

i would probably be left speechless for how racist that is
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126573 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 11:26 am to
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yes, if your goal is to advance humanity on earth



well then lets look at white slavic values

bc they are shite for the most part, much worse than the poor black ones in america.
Posted by broeho
Atlanta, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
1815 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 11:26 am to
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japan was the first asian country to develop western values. there is a reason japan became the dominant force in asia after



While I totally agree with you here, Japan didn't completely abandon their own culture. They still speak a completely different language from everyone else and have a lot of really unique things about their culture.

The thing I don't like about this thread is that people are just shitting on black culture (but not black people, right? Just their culture) for stupid stuff, like speaking differently, dressing differently, etc.

Japanese people speak japanese, dress weird as frick and are obsessed with hello kitty, anime, and tentacle porn. While that is really weird to me, they manage to do pretty okay for themselves. For the same reason, I'm not going to shite on black culture because they like Tyler Perry, Baggy pants, and rap music.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464873 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 11:27 am to
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well then lets look at white slavic values

bc they are shite for the most part, much worse than the poor black ones in america.

there is white trash all over. this isn't about race, it's about culture
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