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re: Marksville City Marshals......Breaking two officers charged with murder

Posted on 11/4/15 at 2:47 pm to
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 11/4/15 at 2:47 pm to
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It's clear they fired into the vehicle without ascertaining whether innocent passengers were inside, otherwise they wouldn't have done it.

So, I'd say firing into a vehicle not knowing what you're shooting at is the equivalent to "wildly firing".



So we ignore the threat to them? They aren't allowed to react to an immediate threat because there might be someone else in the vehicle? What I'm getting out of that is you'd rather have officers die on the off chance there happens to be a child in any pursuit.
Posted by Strannix
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Posted on 11/4/15 at 2:47 pm to
I still want to know what spurred the pursuit, hope it was worth blowing a 6 year old autistic child's head off
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 11/4/15 at 2:48 pm to
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Well there is only one of two possibilities of what happened:

1. They fired wildly into the car and accidentally shot and killed a 6 yr old child

2. They saw the 6 year old child in the car and shot them anyway.


These aren't the only possibilities. They are the "only" possibilities for people that have made up their minds without knowing all the facts.

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But those are the only two possible things that happened.


Maybe if you say this enough times, it will become true.
Posted by Croacka
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Posted on 11/4/15 at 2:48 pm to
Your hyperbole exacerbates your bias
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 11/4/15 at 2:48 pm to
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You really think there's that much time to think? It doesn't happen in slow motion. This isn't a movie.


Properly trained officers plan for such contingencies.
Posted by FlagLake
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Posted on 11/4/15 at 2:49 pm to
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Instead they pulled their pistols and just started hammering away recklessly and with total disregard of who they could hit. Their actions were unprofessional, reckless, and showed a complete disregard for safety. They must be held accountable for that child's death.


Where you there? How in the Hell do you know this? You do know that bullets sometimes pass through people, don't you? If they were shooting towards the driver's door it is totally possible that bullets intended for the driver hit the passenger. Get the frick out of here with your accusations until a thorough investigation has been completed.
Posted by CaptainsWafer
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Posted on 11/4/15 at 2:49 pm to
Mention that a 6 year old was gunned down, blown away, etc a few more times. Your point should be made then.
Posted by Slinky
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Posted on 11/4/15 at 2:49 pm to
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You are a fricking complete idiot. You should really go out and attack a cop or something.


That's what I'm saying. fricking cop blocker over here trying to beat his chest and say the child was killed in cold blood.
Posted by Strannix
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Posted on 11/4/15 at 2:49 pm to
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What I'm getting out of that is you'd rather have officers die on the off chance there happens to be a child in any pursuit


So they get OUT of their vehicle and start dumping rounds into an unknown target for their safety? These dumbasses are lucky they didn't shoot each other. I don't think it was cold blooded, just a terrible decision that any civilian would catch a murder charge on.
This post was edited on 11/4/15 at 2:51 pm
Posted by bayourougebengal
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Posted on 11/4/15 at 2:50 pm to
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blowing a 6 year old autistic child's head off


You keep saying this like it was an intentional killing. IT WAS NOT.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 11/4/15 at 2:50 pm to
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until a thorough investigation has been completed.




Why do you think the general public has lost faith in law enforcement and thinks our CJ system is a joke?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 11/4/15 at 2:50 pm to
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So they get OUT of their vehicle and start dumping rounds into an unknown target for their safety?


The target was known. They were subduing the [person ramming them with a vehicle. Going off your logic, they would also have to open the trunk to make sure no kids were in there before they could protect themselves.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 11/4/15 at 2:51 pm to
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So we ignore the threat to them? They aren't allowed to react to an immediate threat because there might be someone else in the vehicle? What I'm getting out of that is you'd rather have officers die on the off chance there happens to be a child in any pursuit.


If there is a threat, you aim your pistol at that person. You don't just go spraying the general area where they're at. This is not Call of Duty where you can just can "spray and pray".
Posted by Slinky
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Posted on 11/4/15 at 2:51 pm to
And all of a sudden the child is autistic. Where are you getting this? First I've heard of it. But maybe that's because I'm not sitting on my arse 24/7 and actually going to work.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 11/4/15 at 2:51 pm to
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Why do you think the general public has lost faith in law enforcement and thinks our CJ system is a joke?


Because of dumbasses like OP that try to make situations like this seem terrible without a shred of evidence.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 11/4/15 at 2:52 pm to
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If there is a threat, you aim your pistol at that person. You don't just go spraying the general area where they're at. This is not Call of Duty where you can just can "spray and pray".


Can I ram you with my car at night during a pursuit and see if you can hit inside the 10 ring?

Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 11/4/15 at 2:52 pm to
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quote:
Well there is only one of two possibilities of what happened:

1. They fired wildly into the car and accidentally shot and killed a 6 yr old child

2. They saw the 6 year old child in the car and shot them anyway.


These aren't the only possibilities. They are the "only" possibilities for people that have made up their minds without knowing all the facts.

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But those are the only two possible things that happened.


Maybe if you say this enough times, it will become true.


What other possibilities are there?
Posted by Strannix
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Posted on 11/4/15 at 2:53 pm to
The police chose to spray a vehicle with rounds, the net outcome of this decision is that a child died, thats a bad outcome.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 11/4/15 at 2:53 pm to
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What other possibilities are there?


Too many to even mention, but you've made up your mind. No point in trying to change it.
Posted by uway
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Posted on 11/4/15 at 2:54 pm to
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So we ignore the threat to them? They aren't allowed to react to an immediate threat because there might be someone else in the vehicle? What I'm getting out of that is you'd rather have officers die on the off chance there happens to be a child in any pursuit.


I don't want to ignore the threat. I want us to in general, not always take cops' word for it that their lives were in danger.
And yes that's what it seems like prosecutors do.
And it seems like the dominant mode of thinking within law enforcement these days is that the most important thing is officer safety.
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