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re: Managing COVID severity.
Posted on 12/23/20 at 12:34 pm to TexasTiger34
Posted on 12/23/20 at 12:34 pm to TexasTiger34
My wife & daughter are Type 1
Neither are obese in the least. I know others who were also hit pretty hard by this virus and were not in those categories, as well.
Even with all of this, shutting down everything is absolutely ridiculous
Neither are obese in the least. I know others who were also hit pretty hard by this virus and were not in those categories, as well.
Even with all of this, shutting down everything is absolutely ridiculous
This post was edited on 12/23/20 at 12:35 pm
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Posted on 12/23/20 at 12:38 pm to TexasTiger34
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We've been locked down for about a year now which is plenty of time for most individuals to go from unhealthy to healthy. That's plenty of time to diet better, exercise more and establish healthier lifestyles.
I've said the same thing. Surely more lives could have been saved by getting more people in shape than wearing masks, and that should have been a big part of the message. But they can't risk losing votes by telling fatties to get off the couch.
So, just wear your mask and stay lazy, my friends. And if you do something crazy like try to get in shape, don't try going to a gym, and wear your mask outdoors while exercising too. The Europeans were even worse, limiting outdoor activities to a certain length of time each day, within a radius of your home. smh.
Posted on 12/23/20 at 12:41 pm to TexasTiger34
If these pre-existing conditions were present exclusively in white males you bet your arse we would be hear all about how we need to improve our habits to keep the hospitals from overcrowding
Posted on 12/23/20 at 12:44 pm to omarlittle
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You’re 100% correct, but ain’t no money to be made in healthy living.
See, i keep seeing/hearing people say this but I completely disagree. It doesn't take a genius to get creative and come up with ways to make money based on healthy living as opposed to unhealthy.
Gyms, apps, clothes, equipment, bikes, skateboards, sports, hiking, outdoor related travel, nutrition related... i could probably name a few dozen more things that you could specifically tailor to healthy living that you can AND ALREADY DO make a ton of money off of.
Right off the top of my head here's some examples: PTON, PLNT, GRMN, NKE, DIIBF, , HLF
I mean... are you kiddin me? This companies and more are making a killing just by people being bored during a pandemic. Could you imagine how much money could be made throughout the economy if you actually PUSHED HARD for good health?? All these stocks would double.
And money aside, people would be more attractive, happier, live longer, be able to fight health scares better.
Seriously, what down side is there? The fact that you have to sweat a little?
I've never been more disappointed in this country, top to bottom, in my lifetime than right now.
This is the information age, you have google at your finger tips. Nobody can claim ignorance at this point.
Posted on 12/23/20 at 12:46 pm to TexasTiger34
IMO one of the main reasons no one on the government side wanted to push it was that they would have to admit we were going to be in this thing for a few years no matter what. That's why the "15 days to flatten the curve", "Phase X extended 2 more weeks....." talk.
Not one of them has the nuts to say "Hey look, Covid is going to be a thing in 2021, and today, March 15th 2020 - you can make the decision to progress on your health and greatly minimize any potential impact Covid may have on you."
It would have been political suicide. The political left would be further scared into their bunkers and the political right would have laughed it off as a scare tactic and how "Big government wants to control what we eat, besides, this will all be over November 4th"
Also annoying: Among those with diabetes and/or high blood pressure - it is the UNCONTROLLED versions where there is a problem. This point is left out of all discussion. Speaking of diabetes like it's a standalone risk of early covid without mentioning how well it's controlled is also a scare tactic.
Re: Covid, keep the A1C below about 9 and it appears your risk is closer in line to what would be expected for your gender/age. Well controlled (under 7) really doesn't seem to be any unique risk at all.
Similar with obesity - it's not really the BMI 30.4 baws showing up needing a ventilator. So, if you started this journey at a 40MI and took the last few months to get it to 35, you've made 90% of the progress with respect to covid risk. I think so many with extreme obesity look it it as a helpless cause "I'll never be thin", without realizing or being told along the way that little steps consisting of short-term obtainable goals can go a long way with your health.
Not one of them has the nuts to say "Hey look, Covid is going to be a thing in 2021, and today, March 15th 2020 - you can make the decision to progress on your health and greatly minimize any potential impact Covid may have on you."
It would have been political suicide. The political left would be further scared into their bunkers and the political right would have laughed it off as a scare tactic and how "Big government wants to control what we eat, besides, this will all be over November 4th"
Also annoying: Among those with diabetes and/or high blood pressure - it is the UNCONTROLLED versions where there is a problem. This point is left out of all discussion. Speaking of diabetes like it's a standalone risk of early covid without mentioning how well it's controlled is also a scare tactic.
Re: Covid, keep the A1C below about 9 and it appears your risk is closer in line to what would be expected for your gender/age. Well controlled (under 7) really doesn't seem to be any unique risk at all.
Similar with obesity - it's not really the BMI 30.4 baws showing up needing a ventilator. So, if you started this journey at a 40MI and took the last few months to get it to 35, you've made 90% of the progress with respect to covid risk. I think so many with extreme obesity look it it as a helpless cause "I'll never be thin", without realizing or being told along the way that little steps consisting of short-term obtainable goals can go a long way with your health.
Posted on 12/23/20 at 12:47 pm to lsusteve1
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My wife & daughter are Type 1
Neither are obese in the least. I know others who were also hit pretty hard by this virus and were not in those categories, as well.
Sorry to hear they have diabetes but even individuals who have D1 and aren't obese can't argue that attempting to be in good health wouldn't help your chances with the virus. Thanks for weighing in though... i guess.
ETA: I love the people downvoting these statements. Argue with me on the point. Don't be a pussy and downvote. Argue with the fact that being healthier can help with virus. Please
This post was edited on 12/23/20 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 12/23/20 at 12:55 pm to lsufanintexas
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I am type 2 diabetic but on keto/low carb to keep my sugars in check. I haven't run my a1c yet but with all of the different amount of information out there...I don't really know if I'm in danger of dying or not since I have one of the underlying conditions.
I actually wonder if this is for people who are extremely obese & diabetic rather than just run of the mill type 2's.
I'm pretty fit for my size and not overweight. My doctor seems to think this is just a bunch of bs and isn't overly concerned...but who the hell knows anymore with all of the politicizing and mis-information about covid out there.
If you dig deep into the old covid thread you can find some info there.
Effectively:
A1C around 9% is where risks really start to rise. Similarly for males, the BMI risk starts to take of at BMI 35 and becomes very bad at BMI 40.
For males, the overweight club (BMI 25-29) scored better than the normal (BMI 18-24 club). However, this is in line with other studies as well. IMO this is due to the break point being not descriptive of males - i.e. I would venture there are more healthy 25yo 6'0", 190lb males out there than there are 25yo 6'0" 135lb ones, even though the later is technically "normal" weight.
Many, if not most, type 2's also check off a few obesity boxes so it may be hard to get data on a standalone non-obese type 2.
Posted on 12/23/20 at 12:57 pm to TexasTiger34
Motivated me to drop 30 pounds after talking to wife (who is a COVID nurse, sorry no pics).
Posted on 12/23/20 at 1:11 pm to Redlos
Personal responsibility is sexy.
Posted on 12/23/20 at 1:28 pm to TexasTiger34
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Argue with the fact that being healthier can help with virus.
No one argues that. It’s your idea that telling high risk people to get healthy vs wearing a mask and social distancing would have been a better Covid management solution that falls flat.
Posted on 12/23/20 at 1:41 pm to TexasTiger34
A month ago I would have been on the same page. I tested positive, ran fever for 11 days. Spent time in the hospital because my oxygen levels were low. I am healthy 49 yr old. No underlying conditions. I was running 3-5 miles per day. A month after testing positive, I am still on oxygen and don’t feel like I am getting better.
Posted on 12/23/20 at 1:49 pm to Ross
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Vitamin D has been correlated to better outcomes with COVID
I’ve read this so many times.
My question is: How long does it take for one supplementing VitD to build up enough in their body to help combat the effects of covid? Surely it has to be a while, weeks. If anyone has an answer TIA
This post was edited on 12/23/20 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 12/23/20 at 2:07 pm to HeavyD
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A month ago I would have been on the same page. I tested positive, ran fever for 11 days. Spent time in the hospital because my oxygen levels were low. I am healthy 49 yr old. No underlying conditions. I was running 3-5 miles per day. A month after testing positive, I am still on oxygen and don’t feel like I am getting better.
Again, i get that there are some anecdotal exceptions. Probably a low percentage. That shouldn't detract from the notion that this is a HUGE missed opportunity to push a health agenda.
5 more people could come in here posting their experience and how they believe they are a proven exception but does that really mean "oh, yea you're right, frick being healthy as a preventive measure 5 dudes were healthy and still had issues... "?
Posted on 12/23/20 at 2:10 pm to BRIllini07
You’re absolutely correct! The inconvenient truth is the lack of PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY... you and you alone are responsible for your own health. The majority, if not all of those co-morbidities can be monitored & regulated by an individual. But you have to be disciplined enough to take your prescriptions on a daily basis, make & show up to an appointment every 6 months, monitor your HBP or daily glucose, and your chances of getting through COVID are increased 10 fold. To this day they’re pushing the fast & convenient narrative...come get a shot it’ll cure all your ills.
Posted on 12/23/20 at 2:24 pm to TexasTiger34
I don’t disagree with you. I think it hits people differently. I took the vitamin d, c, and zinc since May. I do think we need to open the economy fully. This has been bad for me, but I do understand I am in the exception group. Others in my family that had covid, had the underlying conditions ( high blood pressure, diabetes) and they were down 3-5 days with fever.
I do believe the more you are around people the lesser the symptoms. I have been working from home, and not around a lot of people. Maybe my immune system was low because of this. We need to get back to normal and let this take its course.
I do believe the more you are around people the lesser the symptoms. I have been working from home, and not around a lot of people. Maybe my immune system was low because of this. We need to get back to normal and let this take its course.
Posted on 12/23/20 at 2:33 pm to HeavyD
Heavy, You are a prime example as to why Covid is different for everyone. My next-door neighbor is 64 years of age and he was over Covid after two days with no lingering issues. I have had it now for eight days and I feel like dog crap. I know a young kid in college who is in Peake physical conditioning And two months after having Covid he still has lingering issues. People need to have a healthy respect for Covid not fear.
Posted on 12/23/20 at 2:39 pm to HeavyD
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No underlying conditions
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HeavyD
You sure about the no underlying conditions? Joking of course, sorry it hit you hard and hope you get better soon
Posted on 12/23/20 at 2:55 pm to The Boat
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How exactly does one get rid of their asthma?
By turning off the Nintendo Switch
Funny comment. But in all seriousness that’s not the cause of my asthma. That’s the only thing that kind of freaks me out. I’m not overweight, I take zero medicine, I exercise and eat healthy - but I have asthma. My chances of dying from Covid are basically non existent - but if I were to catch it and it triggers my asthma - who knows what will happen.
But I don’t want to live in fear - so I do what I got to do. AND I think masks are stupid - if my brain thinks im not getting enough air - I will start to wheeze.
Posted on 12/23/20 at 2:57 pm to GreenRockTiger
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AND I think masks are stupid
We know.
Posted on 12/23/20 at 2:58 pm to Paul Allen
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Paul Allen
Are you going to tell me how to wear mine?
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