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re: Male Student is Possibly Raped; Gets Expelled for Sexual Assaut

Posted on 7/21/15 at 12:20 pm to
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
5127 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 12:20 pm to
Neither was charged by Amherst with sexual conduct with an inebriated person. He got charged with the forced rape
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
5127 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 12:23 pm to
People react to being raped in different ways. Not everyone who is raped turns into a crying mess. There is no definitive way to sound like you were or weren't raped
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138898 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 12:24 pm to
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He got charged with the forced rape


So what in the hell is a university doing trying someone for a felony? If that school felt he forcibly raped another student and didn't go to the police, every single one of those board members should be in serious trouble with a real court.
Posted by Lokistale
Member since Aug 2013
1344 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 12:26 pm to
Well... isn't it all about perspectives?

If gf's rapist roommate looked like this:

No hard feelings... take your explosion as a learning experience...

But if gf's roommate looked like this:


Then you have to sue the entire school, the town, and state!!
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21764 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 12:26 pm to
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Neither was charged by Amherst with sexual conduct with an inebriated person. He got charged with the forced rape


And she didn't because he couldn't remember it? Got it. The morale of this story is that from now on, for every drunken hookup where a guy gets blacked out, they need to report it as a sexual assault. BS like this will come to a screeching halt immediately.

That's pie in the sky thinking though, because college women aren't capable of doing such things, only blacked out men.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138898 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 12:26 pm to
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People react to being raped in different ways. Not everyone who is raped turns into a crying mess. There is no definitive way to sound like you were or weren't raped



Yes there is:

quote:

Jones: Ohmygod I jus did something so frickig stupid

DR: What did you do

Jones: fricked [Doe]... frick





I've never heard of a rape victim say anything like that. That argument is beyond weak.
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
5127 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 12:27 pm to
They may have gone to the police. I don't know. But a lot of schools try to discourage students from bringing this type of thing to police. They don't want parents to read actual assault statistics before sending their kids off to school. It's messed up.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138898 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 12:32 pm to
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But a lot of schools try to discourage students from bringing this type of thing to police. They don't want parents to read actual assault statistics before sending their kids off to school. It's messed up.


It's beyond messed up. It could be construed as criminal coercion.
Posted by Hoops
LA
Member since Jan 2013
8249 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 12:32 pm to
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Despite an accuser who offered borderline non-coherent responses that subtly expanded on her initial story, the panel ultimately accepted her credibility. It ruled that while Doe likely was “blacked out” during the oral sex, “[b]eing intoxicated or impaired by drugs or alcohol is never an excuse.” Since AS said she withdrew consent at some point during the sexual act, and since Doe couldn’t challenge that recollection, the panel was at least 50.01 percent inclined to believe the accuser’s tale.


So if you are passed out drunk and I am punching you in the face but hurt my hand during it I can sue you?

Wish I would have known that when I lived in the dorms.
Posted by LesMiles BFF
Lafayette
Member since May 2014
5101 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 12:33 pm to
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ople react to being raped in different ways. Not everyone who is raped turns into a crying mess. There is no definitive way to sound like you were or weren't raped


One of the best (and worst) things about text messaging is that emotions are hard to convey. So you can look at contextual clues in a conversation without muddying the waters with emotion.

Anyone that says they "fricked" someone is implying action upon their paart.

She was a participant in whatever happened that night.
This post was edited on 7/21/15 at 12:36 pm
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
5127 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 12:35 pm to
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I've never heard of a rape victim say anything like that. That argument is beyond weak.


You should contact your local police department and let them know you're the final arbiter on what rape victims say and don't say. You could help them close some files.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
134615 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 12:37 pm to
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People react to being raped in different ways. Not everyone who is raped turns into a crying mess. There is no definitive way to sound like you were or weren't raped


I'd say that texting someone that you made a mistake and fricked a passed out guy is a pretty clear indicator that you weren't raped.
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
5127 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 12:37 pm to
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Anyone that says they "fricked" someone is employing action upon their part. She was a participant in whatever happened that night.


She engaged in consensual sex with the guy. There's no question about that. She claims that she withdrew consent later and he forced her to continue.
Posted by LesMiles BFF
Lafayette
Member since May 2014
5101 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 12:38 pm to
quote:

u should contact your local police department and let them know you're the final arbiter on what rape victims say and don't say. You could help them close some files



You aren't funny. If the guy had text someone saying he fricked so and so then it would have been used as evidence against him.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111336 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 12:39 pm to
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They may have gone to the police. I don't know. But a lot of schools try to discourage students from bringing this type of thing to police. They don't want parents to read actual assault statistics before sending their kids off to school. It's messed up.
A rape victim will NEVER, i repeat NEVER, refer to the act as "I fricked him" That is basic human psychology
Posted by LesMiles BFF
Lafayette
Member since May 2014
5101 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 12:40 pm to
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She claims that she withdrew consent later and he forced her to continue.


And the evidence of that is what? Cause she said she did?

Her messages also imply a sense of regret. It's obvious and her case wouldn't hold up in court.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138898 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 12:41 pm to
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You should contact your local police department and let them know you're the final arbiter on what rape victims say and don't say. You could help them close some files.


She didn't keep quiet for days or sheepishly mention it to a friend, she sent a voluntary, unsolicited text right after the encounter saying she banged a guy when she knew she shouldn't have. I don't need to be a member of Scotland Yard to conclude that a statement such as that in the time frame in which it was delivered doesn't shed serious doubt as to the validity of a forced rape allegation.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
134615 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 12:42 pm to
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She claims that she withdrew consent later and he forced her to continue.


How did she enunciate her withdrawal of her consent with her mouth full of his cock?



"Mmmmpphhhh-mphhh!"
Posted by LesMiles BFF
Lafayette
Member since May 2014
5101 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 12:44 pm to
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she sent a voluntary, unsolicited text right after the encounter saying she banged a guy when she knew she shouldn't have.


Don't you know that a victim doesn't know what she's saying half the time? Plus she's a woman and is born to a different standard of proof. It's call vaginal privilege.

Now anything the guy would have text would have been obvious evidence of his culpability.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21764 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 12:45 pm to
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You aren't funny. If the guy had text someone saying he fricked so and so then it would have been used as evidence against him.


I am seriously debating posting this on some reddit feminist page with the genders reversed and see what happens. Call it a social experiment. Anyone that thinks this broad isn't receiving white glove treatment is insane.
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