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re: Male Marine vs Female Marine pugil sticks
Posted on 6/25/23 at 12:47 pm to GreenRockTiger
Posted on 6/25/23 at 12:47 pm to GreenRockTiger
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the guy should’ve beat the shite out of her and then told her to get in the kitchen where she belongs
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Posted on 6/25/23 at 12:48 pm to Sam Quint
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The point was made whether she suffers a life altering injury or not. The training value of her getting hurt badly is zero.
That's not entirely true. She doesn't have to suffer a life altering injury to decide that if she is entirely outmatched by her peers, perhaps that isn't the place for her.
Wounded on the battlefield takes up far more resources at the detriment to unit than for the corpsman to walk over and check her for a concussion.
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Unfortunately, the cowardly Marine three and four stars don't care how many women are injured in the pointless pursuit of women being equal to appease the politicians.
I agree with you there, but it should be the job of the NCO's to ensure everyone in the unit is combat ready. Getting pummelled in practice is well within that criteria. If there's a weak soldier it's on the NCO to either push them out or bring them up to speed, regardless of gender.
Posted on 6/25/23 at 12:52 pm to NYNolaguy1
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That's not entirely true. She doesn't have to suffer a life altering injury to decide that if she is entirely outmatched by her peers, perhaps that isn't the place for her.
I'm confused because it sounds like you are disagreeing but then agreeing with what I'm saying.
I am saying that letting them pummel her into a severe injury has no training value. There IS training value in demonstrating that she is totally outmatched, and they point was made clearly.
This post was edited on 6/25/23 at 12:54 pm
Posted on 6/25/23 at 12:53 pm to NYNolaguy1
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Wounded on the battlefield takes up far more resources at the detriment to unit than for the corpsman to walk over and check her for a concussion.
Again, I agree. Women have no business being in combat or combat units. It's a net loss in every possible way.
Posted on 6/25/23 at 1:01 pm to Bard
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it was that they seemed to be reading him the riot act for treating the initial confrontation in a realistic manner
Devils advocate, If you bullrush someone who has a fixed bayonet, which is what pugil sticks are supposed to simulate, you're gonna get skewered. So while he easily knocked this chick down, in the context of what it was supposed to simulate he wasn't using proper tactics.
BTW this is part of a longer video. It's not training, it was a Marine combat engineer unit on "Engineer Day" and this was one of the events. Anybody could sign up to go in the ring.
Posted on 6/25/23 at 1:04 pm to SemperFiDawg
Looks like equality in action to me.
Posted on 6/25/23 at 1:17 pm to G I Jeaux
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ANYONE who did not already know this is a fool or has an IQ of less the 50.
Posted on 6/25/23 at 1:20 pm to Sam Quint
Ukraine is fighting for their very lives. How many females do they have in ground combat roles? All you need to know.
Posted on 6/25/23 at 1:21 pm to SoFla Tideroller
I don't know how many, but there are some
Posted on 6/25/23 at 1:28 pm to MetroAtlantaGatorFan
quote:Exactly. And like almost all things in the natural world.... some are more equal than others.
Looks like equality in action to me.
Posted on 6/25/23 at 1:33 pm to SemperFiDawg
Women have no place in combat arms units. In fact, they should serve only in rear echelon support formations such as hospital units. And I don’t say this out of hatred or discrimination against women. It’s simply a fact there are no military advantages of having them in combat units and numerous disadvantages to having them.
Posted on 6/25/23 at 1:48 pm to SemperFiDawg
It's pugil sticks not pugilist sticks.
The male Marine proved his point in the first round (i.e. sloppy bull rush with some kind of cross check strike). Rounds two and three he more cleanly put the red part of the stick (red = bayonet) on her grape quickly. Those were quick kills and the ref was supposed to stop it. Pugil sticks ain't football, you frick up and get touched in a vital with the red part and it's over, just like it would be in real life. It's embarrassing to lose that fast.
The male Marine proved his point in the first round (i.e. sloppy bull rush with some kind of cross check strike). Rounds two and three he more cleanly put the red part of the stick (red = bayonet) on her grape quickly. Those were quick kills and the ref was supposed to stop it. Pugil sticks ain't football, you frick up and get touched in a vital with the red part and it's over, just like it would be in real life. It's embarrassing to lose that fast.
This post was edited on 6/25/23 at 1:54 pm
Posted on 6/25/23 at 1:51 pm to Jim Rockford
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Devils advocate, If you bullrush someone who has a fixed bayonet, which is what pugil sticks are supposed to simulate, you're gonna get skewered. So while he easily knocked this chick down, in the context of what it was supposed to simulate he wasn't using proper tactics.
Yes bull rushing is generally a bad idea. Had he gone against most of those male Marines, he would have lost round one to a lot of them. Shear, decisive aggression works sometimes, especially against someone who can't fight, like that BAM Marinette.
This post was edited on 6/25/23 at 1:52 pm
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