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Macdonald triad theory - For True Crime junkies, Mindhunters related

Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:33 pm
Posted by SmackDaniels
Gulf Breeze, FL
Member since Mar 2007
15134 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:33 pm
Listening today about Ryan Sharpe being called a serial killer got me to thinking about a lot true crime I've been listening too.

I knew Ryan Sharpe quite well. Considered him a friend for a year or two back 20 years ago.

Can't say I ever saw this coming. Arrested for a meth lab maybe...yes, serial killer though...not so much.

Anyway, after watching the show Mindhunters and listening to the audio book, "The Killer Across the Table" The subject line theory is based on, if you know a kid that has all three of these tendencies "Cruelty to animals, Obsession with fire starting, Late age bed wetting" then you have a future psychopath on your hands. Psychopath as in serial killer, serial rapist, etc...

Ryan as I knew him, didn't have any of these tendencies although I didn't know him overly well. But from what I understand, the MacDonald Triad theory is pretty damn dead on.

Wiki link on it

LINK

This post was edited on 12/13/19 at 6:47 pm
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:48 pm to
Huh?

Link?
Posted by jamiegla1
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:51 pm to
What’s considered “late age bed wetting”
Posted by SmackDaniels
Gulf Breeze, FL
Member since Mar 2007
15134 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:55 pm to
Sorry, updated with link.
Posted by SmackDaniels
Gulf Breeze, FL
Member since Mar 2007
15134 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:57 pm to
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What’s considered “late age bed wetting”


It shouldn't be a problem after age 5 from what I've read.
This post was edited on 12/11/19 at 11:50 pm
Posted by scrooster
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 12/11/19 at 11:10 pm to
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Sorry, updated with link.


Thanks

Interesting.

The cruelty to animals is a fairly common trait among sociopaths and psychopaths. My youngest daughter is a clinical psychologist and she firmly believes in that one. Cruelty that includes torturing animals.

The other two I dunno. Doesn't make a lot of sense.

I know bed wetting can be because of a lot of reasons.

Fire starting, arson .... that's usually a pathology all its own I thought? Weird bunch, usually incredibly intelligent... at least the most prolific of the bunch and not the drive by activist types.

Posted by TexasTiger89
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2005
24274 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 11:14 pm to
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Huh?


quote:

The triad links cruelty to animals, obsession with fire-setting, and persistent bedwetting past a certain age, to violent behaviors, particularly homicidal behavior and sexually predatory behavior.[5] However, other studies claim to have not found statistically significant links between the triad and violent offenders.
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
37359 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 11:17 pm to
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Late age bed wetting


Well Owlie is 1/3 a serial killer.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
48769 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 11:19 pm to
quote:

I knew Ryan Sharpe quite well. Considered him a friend for a year or two back 20 years ago. 

subtle famous friends brag
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78563 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 11:25 pm to
McDonald's Triad #2: (also known as the triad of fast food sociopathy or IDGAF Syndrome) is a set of [b]three factors that has been suggested (LSUPimp 2018), if all three or any combination of two, are present together, to be predictive of or associated with later shitty fast food tendencies, particularly with relation to fast food offenses.

The triad links cruelty to customers, obsession with getting the order wrong, and persistent instruction to drive forward and wait and then 10 minutes later bringing a bag full of shite you never ordered to any restaurant that features cheap food for fatties and exclusively hires mono-syllabic, scowling people who clearly hate you for asking them to do their job .
Posted by K Baw
W Monroe
Member since Jun 2019
345 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 11:28 pm to
I think it mean if you pissed the bed last night
Posted by SmackDaniels
Gulf Breeze, FL
Member since Mar 2007
15134 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 11:28 pm to
quote:

I know bed wetting can be because of a lot of reasons.


95% of the time it's from an unstable household. Maybe from an alcoholic mother or father, older abusive siblings, sexual abuse.

Kids are always nervous, scared, can't sleep well. Terrified of they're surroundings, etc...
Posted by SmackDaniels
Gulf Breeze, FL
Member since Mar 2007
15134 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 11:30 pm to
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subtle famous friends brag


Infamous would be better word and I'm not bragging about knowing a serial killer.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
48769 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 1:08 am to
It's ok baw, I grew up with killers too.
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29451 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 4:06 am to
quote:

I knew Ryan Sharpe quite well. Considered him a friend for a year or two back 20 years ago.

Subtle "I didn't get serial killed" brag.
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12715 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 5:23 am to
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Macdonald triad theory

For some reason, I thought this was going to be about the Chinese using a popular American fast food joint to do nefarious deeds.

Needless to say, I'm a bit disappointed. Something about a bunch of skinny Chinese guys using obese Americans to fund their criminal activities is mildly humorous.
Posted by SmackDaniels
Gulf Breeze, FL
Member since Mar 2007
15134 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 10:28 pm to
If any of you like the show Mindhunters, the guy Holden Ford was based on has a great book, "Killer across the table" and confirms a lot about the show.

Holden Firm narrates the audio book.
Posted by Bawcephus
Member since Jul 2018
2747 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 11:19 pm to
Any of those three traits are easily concealed and it's not a big leap to see how one would not want to share all three, especially animal cruelty and bed wetting with anyone. The arson angle would be the most likely to be observed by peers as it's "cool".
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