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re: Lt. Gov. Billy Nungesser letter on cancellation of $3 billion Mid-Barataria Diversion
Posted on 7/22/25 at 10:26 pm to ragincajun03
Posted on 7/22/25 at 10:26 pm to ragincajun03
For once I can agree with Pinky!
Posted on 7/22/25 at 10:29 pm to Swagga
This diversion was a joke from the start and thank god it was terminated! Anyone to say that the great people of Plaquemines "get what they deserve" ie:die is down right inhumane and assinine!
Posted on 7/23/25 at 9:02 am to Flablete
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This diversion was a joke from the start and thank god it was terminated! Anyone to say that the great people of Plaquemines "get what they deserve" ie:die is down right inhumane and assinine!
Please elaborate - I am eager to hear your expertise on the subject.
Posted on 7/23/25 at 5:16 pm to lsuchip30
Who r u...Chip Klein or something?
Posted on 7/23/25 at 6:23 pm to Baers Foot
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Our illustrious governor is enjoying a nice trip to Aspen, Colorado currently. For all the shite this board rightfully gave The Destroya, no one is keeping tabs on our head honcho.
At least his PAC and donors are paying for the trips. Nothing shady there. Nope. None at all.
Posted on 7/23/25 at 6:48 pm to Flablete
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This diversion was a joke from the start and thank god it was terminated! Anyone to say that the great people of Plaquemines "get what they deserve" ie:die is down right inhumane and assinine!
What’s the name of your fishing boat, Captain?
Posted on 7/24/25 at 7:07 am to Flablete
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Who r u...Chip Klein or something?
I don't know who that is. I'm just a guy that sells stuff. A lot of the stuff that I sell was going to be sold to that job.
Posted on 7/24/25 at 7:14 am to ragincajun03
What about the lsu lake project?
Posted on 7/24/25 at 9:00 am to lsuchip30
So what your saying is you dont necessarily think it was a good thing...you just pissed because some political friend gave you a BS contract and now your company is not getting the "deal" you were promised!
I love the fact that they killed it even more now! All this was..was a money grab!
I love the fact that they killed it even more now! All this was..was a money grab!
Posted on 7/24/25 at 9:21 am to Flablete
I won't pretend that I know any of the science behind it. I am looking at it from an economic perspective. Having been in the construction materials industry in south Louisiana for over 2 decades, I know that construction projects of this magnitude do not come around all the time. At the end of the day it was a 3 billion dollar construction project that Louisiana taxpayers were not paying for. There were no tax breaks to companies or corporations to do business here. That almost never happens here. Again - the money came from the BP oil spill and it has to be spent on coastal restoration projects in gulf states. The financial ramifications of cancelling a project like this are difficult to quantify.
Also - no one gave anyone any contract or a deal. The company that I work for bid the job against other suppliers and we were low bid - plain and simple. Nothing nefarious or shady. We were not promised anything other than the specific contractor purchasing material from us because we had the low number. We also spent a lot of money mobilizing and procuring said material and storing said material for over a year. Lots of contractors and suppliers are in the same boat as we are on that front.
Also - no one gave anyone any contract or a deal. The company that I work for bid the job against other suppliers and we were low bid - plain and simple. Nothing nefarious or shady. We were not promised anything other than the specific contractor purchasing material from us because we had the low number. We also spent a lot of money mobilizing and procuring said material and storing said material for over a year. Lots of contractors and suppliers are in the same boat as we are on that front.
Posted on 7/24/25 at 9:41 am to boxcarbarney
quote:The extra freshwater would lower the salinity to the point where shrimping and oyster fishing would be over in a big chunk of the area. Especially further north and closer to the diversion’s location. So the people who currently hold oyster leases in that area or that shrimp in Barataria Bay are against it because now they’ll have to travel a further to fish.
Can anyone who knows more tell me if Nungesser is correct that the Diversion would basically destroying Barataria Bay,
The dolphins will adapt and move to more saline waters along the coast.
But none of it is “ruining Barataria Bay”. It would be returning the area closer to the state it would be in if the Miss River wasn’t cut off from those swamps and marshes via the levees. A lot of what’s now marsh or open water around Barataria Bay had oak trees and cypress swamp 50-100 years ago before the land eroded away due to being cut off from river sediment and oil companies digging access canals all through the area. All of that led to saltwater intrusion that killed off the natural swamp vegetation and sped up the land erosion.
quote:I don’t know how quickly they’d be ready to roll, but faster than building the diversion. Problem is that with dredging to build land, its a never ending battle and you will have to keep dredging for eternity and its still hard to keep building land at the pace that it gets eroded away. Restoring the area to a more natural salinity level would promote vegetation growth that helps hold the land together better.
and that there are solutions - barrier islands, ridges and berms - that are ready to roll right now?
Plaquemines Parish shrimpers and oyster fisherman who are politically connected is why the diversion got killed. The project’s ballooning budget is a bullshite excuse. The diversion was being funded through feds and BP oil spill money. Now the state is going to be on the hook for reimbursing the feds for hundreds of millions already spent, plus whatever other unpaid contractual obligations they’re going to owe to contractors who were hired to work on the project.
Posted on 7/24/25 at 9:46 am to ragincajun03
quote:Thats complete bullshite. Nowhere in the Gulf has a tide range anywhere close to 10’ or more. There is nowhere in the gulf that has an average tide greater than 2.5 to 3’
Now, we want to divert that same water into the Barataria Basin, a basin with tidal movement of less than two feet daily, compared to the Gulf’s 10 to 15 feet.
Barataria Bay tides don’t vary but maybe a few inches from the tide range at the mouth of the river.
Posted on 7/24/25 at 9:50 am to Tiger Prawn
Correct - the project had ballooned a couple of times and JBE threatned to cancel the project unless the BP trust agreed to allocate more money to cover the increased cost. Cancelling this project will cost the state a lot of money. Going from a 3 billion dollar construction project that did not cost the state taxpayer a penny and would increase tax revenue by hundreds of thousands of dollars in multiple areas over a 4 or so year period - to now having to probably re pay the 600 million spent and likely the BP trust allocating larger chunks of the money at their disposal to the other gulf states for projects that those states are willing to construct. This is a massive failure by Louisiana leadership.
Posted on 7/24/25 at 10:11 am to lsuchip30
It's my understanding that the state will not be on the hook for the $600mm already spent, per CPRA's press release from last week.
Now, it also doesn't appear to factor in any contract/legal disputes that may come from termination as the major players will be fighting to cover their losses.
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Baton Rouge, LA – The State of Louisiana, through its Coastal Protection and Restoration Authority (CPRA), has reached an agreement with the Louisiana Trustee Implementation Group to officially terminate the Mid-Barataria Sediment Diversion Project.
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As part of the termination process, the authorized budget has been reduced from $2.26 billion to $618.52 million, reflecting funds already disbursed. The resolution allows CPRA to use funds for activities related to closing out the project and requires monthly updates to the Louisiana Restoration Area Trustees. CPRA and NOAA will provide a final budget reconciliation once termination activities are complete.
Now, it also doesn't appear to factor in any contract/legal disputes that may come from termination as the major players will be fighting to cover their losses.
Posted on 7/24/25 at 10:19 am to KamaCausey_LSU
Well - that is good news. I'm almost certain that there will be lawsuits, though. A lot of companies have had people, equipment, and materials down there for the better part of a year and a half. The small group that I had been dealing with were billing weekly to cover recurring costs for being there, and I am sure that others were as well. Those invoices were all getting paid, but the lost revenue that would have been gained from actually performing the work is what these companies are all trying to calculate right now I have to believe. Just seems like a colossal waste - although not taxpayer dollars - good luck getting that trust to award us with any other project of significance. The lost tax revenue for New Orleans, the communities south, and the state has to be very very high.
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