re: LSUnurse and other AZ posters, some evidence of a crest in Arizona hospitalizations

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If you are looking for the most accurate snapshot of the current situation, yes. But if you are looking at trends (flattening the curve, etc.) it provides some useful information. It's more useful than total confirmed positives for sure.

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not at all! It is a useless metric. Early on in the curve when deaths are low and there are no discharges the average will be high; once deaths and recoveries/discharges start to happen the net average will be low, does not indicate a trend nor does it provide any useful information.

In this case the net 7 day average indicates 24 net change when in reality the number is closer to 500 new admits per day. Now explain how this bullshite metric is useful.

Maybe we are. My original post was a criticism of the Net 7 Day average spreadsheet below the graph at the top of the OP. Your initial response including the portion of my quoted text seemed to indicate that you were responding to my criticism of the Net 7 day average spreadsheet.

It is nice to see a dip of 100 hospitalization over a two day period as indicated in the graph of daily hospitalized covid patients, however I would caution that relying on weekend reporting to try to establish a trend line is risky business because: (1) there will be naturally occurring dips and peaks in the progression of this virus (ie: not a straight-line progression of new cases) (2) there were approx. 1000 reported discharges in that two day period plus 94 reported deaths and (3) the reporting of weekend numbers generally across most states tend to be lower than the reporting for other days of the week. Although I must commend the Arizona DOH as same seems to be the most on the ball with reporting.

What % of COVID patients at your hospital would you guess are hispanic?

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Not at all


I don’t think you understand how much more it costs the hospitals to have so many COVID patients.

Whatever they get from the government in reimbursement isn’t covering all they had to actually spend when you look at things like:

Construction costs to turn rooms and entire units into negative pressure areas (my hospital did this)
Construction costs to make certain units COVID only so you can have separate “clean” and “dirty” areas (we did this...had to build temporary walls in many areas)
Additional hazard pay to staff on COVID units so they don’t up and quit their jobs
Massive increase in PPE and supplies needed for everyone (we all now have to wear masks and face shields walking into any patient care areas)
Costs of testing all the staff that are sick (they aren’t asking for your insurance cards so the hospital is footing the bill for staff testing).
COVID patients staying for months at a time in the ICU....that 37k they get only pays for only a couple days of ICU care
Costs of trying to find lots of extra staff through outside sources (Ex: travel nurse agencies).....those cost $$$ to the hospital

Those are just the ones I can think of...I’m sure posters that are more involved with hospital administration can enlighten us with other costs as well

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Link to all the hospitals in NY that are in financial strain right now?

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What % of COVID patients at your hospital would you guess are hispanic?

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Can't answer for Nurse, but here is the demographic breakdown for the State of AZ hospitalizations for Covid. Click hospitalization button above the Dashboard See lower right box. AZ DOH

ETA: Please note the disclaimer at the bottom of page indicating 64% of hospitalization missing information.