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re: LSU Pathologists Reveal Unexpected Heart Damage from Covid-19

Posted on 7/22/20 at 1:26 pm to
Posted by BRIllini07
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2015
3211 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 1:26 pm to
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It’s not. It’s just that people don’t want to hear anything negative about the virus


People are bad risk managers. I agree that, as the linked paper describes, many people use thought strategies that "typically reduce processing demands" - these people serial downvote literally anything that is against their worldview, instead of evaluating it on its own merits and either including it or excluding it into their risk management strategy.

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Compensatory strategies process and trade off of all available and relevant information. Noncompensatory strategies “typically reduce processing demands by ignoring potentially relevant information” (Payne, Bettman, & Johnson, 1988). Thus, one important reason to consider noncompensatory processing strategies(despite information being,in principle, available, as in risky choice) is when time or cognitive resources are limited.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 1:34 pm to
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am assuming that most people who die with these same underlying conditions who do not have covid do not have this same heart damage or they wouldn't be reporting this.


How would we know?

These were microscopic changes seen only after slicing up their heart and looking at it in the lab after they were dead.
Posted by fishfighter
RIP
Member since Apr 2008
40026 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 1:50 pm to
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infection/virus isn't going to give you heart damage like they have suggested.


bullshite. Went into CHF due to a infection/virus. Got to the point I was seeing a heart transplant team every month. As time went by, my heart started repairing itself. Last EF check was just below 20%.
Posted by BRIllini07
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2015
3211 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 1:52 pm to
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How would we know? These were microscopic changes seen only after slicing up their heart and looking at it in the lab after they were dead.


The prerequisite would have been similar studies done prior to 2019 on people with these same preconditions (but obviously without COVID). I have no clue whether/not these studies exist.

It looks like the goal of this study was to improve treatment options. There is no value in using it as a basis for decision-making at the public and/or political level. From what you were also saying though - nothing about the science (from the MD level) looks all that unusual.
Posted by Spankum
The Sip
Member since Jan 2007
63369 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 1:54 pm to
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Last EF check was just below 20%.


That’s damn great news, Fish!
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