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LSU needs to delete that dumbass tweet.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 3:35 pm
Posted on 6/8/20 at 3:35 pm
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I’m not a fan of “cancel culture” bs. But this tweet was the most brain dead response they could have put out. No response at all would’ve been better. Obviously some random twitter account Tweeting some unverified video isn’t proof of anything but at least pretend like your looking into the situation. Whoever put out the tweet is an idiot and should lose there job.
I’m not a fan of “cancel culture” bs. But this tweet was the most brain dead response they could have put out. No response at all would’ve been better. Obviously some random twitter account Tweeting some unverified video isn’t proof of anything but at least pretend like your looking into the situation. Whoever put out the tweet is an idiot and should lose there job.
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Posted on 6/8/20 at 3:37 pm to LSVTigers77
Got LSU looking really bad they’re sharing it all over Facebook and Twitter
Posted on 6/8/20 at 3:44 pm to LSVTigers77
I love it says in the tweet that their action is limited by the Constitution.
And all the people on Twitter literally up in arms that LSU won’t violate the Constitution. From a bunch of non legal experts too. So they aren’t disputing LSU’s conclusion, they’re saying that bc they really don’t like the result in this case the Constitution should be thrown out the window.
But it was still a dumb response. Shouldn’t have phrased like a final decision. Should’ve phrased it in terms of an on going investigation
And all the people on Twitter literally up in arms that LSU won’t violate the Constitution. From a bunch of non legal experts too. So they aren’t disputing LSU’s conclusion, they’re saying that bc they really don’t like the result in this case the Constitution should be thrown out the window.
But it was still a dumb response. Shouldn’t have phrased like a final decision. Should’ve phrased it in terms of an on going investigation
This post was edited on 6/8/20 at 3:48 pm
Posted on 6/8/20 at 3:47 pm to LSVTigers77
But they posted a black square the other day. All should be forgiven.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 3:47 pm to tigerfan88
So if a professor at LSU stood up in class and said “I hate n******s” you don’t think the school would fire him immediately? You have no idea how the first amendment works.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 3:50 pm to LSVTigers77
Is this teacher tenured?
There's a teacher right now vowing to drop students that she disagrees with, in absolute violation of the constitution.
Let me know when she gets fired.
There's a teacher right now vowing to drop students that she disagrees with, in absolute violation of the constitution.
Let me know when she gets fired.
This post was edited on 6/8/20 at 3:52 pm
Posted on 6/8/20 at 3:51 pm to LSVTigers77
Unfortunatly with everyone going on...
quote:means you are racist.
No response at all
Posted on 6/8/20 at 3:52 pm to LSVTigers77
For purposes of the first amendment on college campuses there are two major factual differences between the two scenarios.
1)Students are treated differently than professors. I.e. the right of employment is different from the right of attendance.
2)speech expressed outside of a class room is treated very very differently from speech said inside the classroom, for reasons that are too long to get into.
Also you don’t think LSU consulted their attorneys before releasing that statement? You think you know more about the intricacies of college first amendment law than the people LSU pays millions of dollars to know exactly that?
1)Students are treated differently than professors. I.e. the right of employment is different from the right of attendance.
2)speech expressed outside of a class room is treated very very differently from speech said inside the classroom, for reasons that are too long to get into.
Also you don’t think LSU consulted their attorneys before releasing that statement? You think you know more about the intricacies of college first amendment law than the people LSU pays millions of dollars to know exactly that?
This post was edited on 6/8/20 at 3:53 pm
Posted on 6/8/20 at 3:57 pm to tigerfan88
Pretty sure hate speech would violate the LSU student code of conduct and be grounds for dismissing the kids application. But that’s not even my point. Whether the kid deserves to be dismissed or not the tweet is a bad look for LSU. They should have some sort of response to this other than “we can’t do anything”.
This post was edited on 6/8/20 at 3:58 pm
Posted on 6/8/20 at 4:02 pm to LSVTigers77
I agree the tweet was a bad pr response.
If the kid was already admitted then the school has to go through a whole bunch of steps to satisfy procedural due process before they can expel him on violating the student code of conduct. Also a school’s code of conduct doesn’t supersede constitutional rights.
Look I’m not an expert and haven’t done in depth research on this, so maybe LSU is wrong and they can expel him or whatever. If they can they should IMO. But LSU clearly consulted its attorney who told them they didn’t have the constitutional power to do so, at least at this time. And it’s kind of wild the amount of people just ignoring that and saying do it anyway
If the kid was already admitted then the school has to go through a whole bunch of steps to satisfy procedural due process before they can expel him on violating the student code of conduct. Also a school’s code of conduct doesn’t supersede constitutional rights.
Look I’m not an expert and haven’t done in depth research on this, so maybe LSU is wrong and they can expel him or whatever. If they can they should IMO. But LSU clearly consulted its attorney who told them they didn’t have the constitutional power to do so, at least at this time. And it’s kind of wild the amount of people just ignoring that and saying do it anyway
Posted on 6/8/20 at 4:03 pm to TaddT189
That's the big one.
Also:
S.M., et al. v. Griffith Public Schools
Also:
S.M., et al. v. Griffith Public Schools
quote:
Indianapolis – A northern Indiana school that expelled three students for a Facebook conversation is the defendant in a lawsuit filed today by the American Civil Liberties Union of Indiana.
The students’ Facebook comments, which took place after school on their personal electronic devices, were clearly meant to be humorous, as evidenced by their repeated use of emoticons such as ;) and abbreviations such as LOL and LMFAO, and caused no disruption at school.
Nevertheless in January, Griffith Middle School near Highland in Lake County suspended and ultimately expelled the students because it determined their Facebook postings had violated a provision of the student handbook dealing with bullying, harassment and intimidation.
“Any reasonable person could see the conversation was purely in jest and could not be interpreted seriously,” said ACLU of Indiana Staff Attorney Gavin M. Rose. “Free speech rights under the First Amendment, even when it’s speech we don’t like or agree with, must still be protected, and schools do not possess infinite reach into the private lives of their students.”
ACLU of Indiana Interim Executive Director Frank Young said schools are educational institutions that need to focus on their mission: “Our children would be better served if schools modeled the values embodied in the Constitution. When schools behave in ways that oppose these values, they fail to teach students an important part of their American heritage.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 4:07 pm to LSVTigers77
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Replying to
@afroliviaa
quote:
@afroliviaa
This account doesn’t exist
Try searching for another.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 4:08 pm to LSVTigers77
What's this about?
Posted on 6/8/20 at 4:08 pm to LSVTigers77
Eh I am ok with it. They have firm legal standing with that logic.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 4:11 pm to LSVTigers77
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Pretty sure hate speech would violate the LSU student code of conduct and be grounds for dismissing the kids application
Hate speech is still protected under the first amendment. Regardless of what's in the student handbook if they expel him they are looking at a big lawsuit.
Here's a similar situation at Penn State.
LINK
quote:
Outrage over two discriminatory incidents involving Penn State students spilled over to the university itself last week, when anger was directed toward the school after it released a statement saying it “does not have the power” to expel such students.
More than 29,000 people signed an online petition demanding disciplinary action against Sean Setnick, who was accused of yelling the n-word and supporting the KKK while driving past a group of peaceful protesters last Sunday. Another student, Ryann Milligan, elicited anger when a photo surfaced that appeared to show her sporting a swastika in Sharpie on her exposed shoulder. A petition to expel her has exceeded 100,000 signatures.
But, according to lawyers and experts at the local, state and national levels, the university is almost certainly correct on its inability to discipline the students.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 4:11 pm to TDsngumbo
TLDR the incoming student posted a video on Twitter I hate n word and LSU replied with above.
Lmao this is worse than mississippi
Lmao this is worse than mississippi
This post was edited on 6/8/20 at 4:13 pm
Posted on 6/8/20 at 4:13 pm to LSVTigers77
quote:Do you have a definition of "hate speech" available? Which ones below fall in that category?
Pretty sure hate speech would violate the LSU student code of conduct and be grounds for dismissing the kids application.
"I hate n*****s"
"I hate nazis"
"I hate jews"
"I hate muslims"
"I hate Bama"
"I hate cops"
"I hate cats"
"I hate teachers"
"I hate yt"
Please advise.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 4:13 pm to LSVTigers77
quote:
So if a professor at LSU stood up in class and said “I hate n******s” you don’t think the school would fire him immediately? You have no idea how the first amendment works
Well now that you mention it. This is pretty close to your scenario.
incoming black professor at BU says white male college kids are the problem population
Guess where she's still teaching.
This post was edited on 6/8/20 at 4:15 pm
Posted on 6/8/20 at 4:17 pm to fareplay
quote:
TLDR the incoming student posted a video on Twitter I hate n word and LSU replied with above.
Well, LSU is correct then. They shouldn't be allowed to deny his admission to the university based upon something he said. Free speech is indeed a thing here in America.
Do I think him saying that is right? Hell no, but it's probably illegal to take action against him for it.
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