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re: LSU having to deal with a “free speech” versus “hate speech” issue

Posted on 6/8/20 at 10:40 am to
Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 6/8/20 at 10:40 am to
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I’m plenty willing to listen about black on black crime. I still don’t understand how that has to do with anything about cop killings and cop brutality towards the Black community


How many "bad" cop killings in say the past 5 years?

Give us the numbers of all "bad" interactions with cops, broken down by race. Should be readily available, right? Something convinced you.

Make your case. This is your opportunity to win the board over with facts about this pox on the Black community.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 10:48 am to
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How many "bad" cop killings in say the past 5 years?


That's one of the points all these "honest" discussions about race seem to omit....

Michael Brown was justifiably shot, so that one's out the window...

Many more justifiable kills that the protest group STILL want to count as police brutality.
Posted by jclem11
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 6/8/20 at 10:50 am to
He won't answer the questions. He is a bad faith actor just trying to virtue signal that he is a woke ally.

Posted by Vidic
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 6/8/20 at 10:54 am to
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Mr. white savior


Oh Look, more condescending insults. Shocking

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How is more violence and murder at allegedly "peaceful protests" furthering the cause


Look at your straw men arguments
Posted by Vidic
Member since Jan 2010
9294 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 10:56 am to
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How many "bad" cop killings in say the past 5 years?


I don’t know. But when there’s one that’s too many. What point are you trying to make?
Posted by jclem11
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Posted on 6/8/20 at 10:57 am to
You came in this thread condescendingly telling us to "listen" but you have failed to address any of our questions or provide any real answers besides baseless platitudes we have all heard a million times. So cry me a river.

You will not engage with our questions or educate us.

We are all waiting to be educated and have our minds changed. Where is the data and evidence to back your claims? Surely you read it and know all the data.
This post was edited on 6/8/20 at 11:00 am
Posted by SlickRickerz
Member since Oct 2018
2290 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 10:57 am to
Trump's executive order on college free speech is working perfectly. I love that orange bastard.
Posted by Vidic
Member since Jan 2010
9294 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 11:00 am to
I’m not really sure why you’re so triggered by the fact I recommend we listen to other people. When did that become an outrage? Oh when we recommend we listen to another race. Got it
Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
21937 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 11:02 am to
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I don’t know. But when there’s one that’s too many. What point are you trying to make?


My point is that tens of thousands of folks protested (which is fine), but a subset committed riots, arsons, and a handful of murders over a racial narrative. And you are carrying their water.

So, I gave you the opportunity to make your case, which of course, you could not.
Posted by jclem11
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 6/8/20 at 11:03 am to
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I’m not really sure why you’re so triggered by the fact I recommend we listen to other people. When did that become an outrage? Oh when we recommend we listen to another race. Got it


Because we ll know that the other side is not interested in a conversation but rather a lecture about how all white people are the devil.

Why can you not engage with the data and facts? Is it because reality does not support the narrative you have been fed?

You keep spouting the platitude of "listen" but that will do frick all to change things.

Again, what are the solutions to the problems ailing the black community?
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
31964 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 11:03 am to
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I don’t know. But when there’s one that’s too many. What point are you trying to make?


There are millions of interactions per year and thousands of variables. You are talking about human beings under intense pressure.

This number will never be zero and it's probably unrealistic for it to be any lower than it is now. I'm highly critical of cops and I am for change, but I think it's a miracle the number is as low as it is.
Posted by jclem11
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Member since Nov 2011
8943 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 11:05 am to
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There are millions of interactions per year and thousands of variables. You are talking about human beings under intense pressure.

This number will never be zero and it's probably unrealistic for it to be any lower than it is now. I'm highly critical of cops and I am for change, but I think it's a miracle the number is as low as it is.


Our pal here is allergic to data and facts. All he is knows is platitudes and slogans. He just knows he is supposed to be outraged and feel guilty for the sin of being born white.
Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
21937 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 11:05 am to
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There are millions of interactions per year and thousands of variables. You are talking about human beings under intense pressure.


Your statistics and logic are being wasted here.
Posted by Vidic
Member since Jan 2010
9294 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 11:06 am to
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Because we ll know that the other side is not interested in a conversation but rather a lecture about how all white people are the devil.


And here are your true feelings. Not every black persons thinks whitey is the devil. It’s okay to talk to them and to have a discussion without being so damn defensive. It will be better for everyone
Posted by Vidic
Member since Jan 2010
9294 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 11:09 am to
So should we just accept the status quo and not work towards improving it?
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 11:09 am to
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What point are you trying to make?


That this is a manufactured crisis.

One may be too many, but a person has to be an IDIOT to think the rioting and looting is about Police brutality.
Posted by Mithridates6
Member since Oct 2019
8220 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 11:09 am to
Your chance of interacting with police outside of a traffic stop is pretty small regardless of race
LINK
Posted by jclem11
Chief Nihilist
Member since Nov 2011
8943 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 11:10 am to
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And here are your true feelings. Not every black persons thinks whitey is the devil. It’s okay to talk to them and to have a discussion without being so damn defensive. It will be better for everyone


We are speaking in general terms in this thread. The general discourse is frick whitey. How do these "discussions" and "conversations" do anything to materially address the problems in the black community?

Can you please stop pivoting and address the data and facts that have been presented in this thread?
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 11:10 am to
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So should we just accept the status quo and not work towards improving it?


You start with a false-premise: What we see going on at the moment isn't working towards improving anything, quite the opposite.

Let's say your car has a flat tire....should you pour sugar in your gas take as a means of fixing the flat?
Posted by jclem11
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Member since Nov 2011
8943 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 11:16 am to
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Your chance of interacting with police outside of a traffic stop is pretty small regardless of race
LINK


Get your facts out of this thread shitlord. Only feels here.
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