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re: Louisiana woman defrauded government for $1.1 million via Paycheck Protection Program

Posted on 5/23/23 at 1:56 pm to
Posted by udtiger
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Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 5/23/23 at 1:56 pm to
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She is an idiot. I'm sure someone told her not to make any deposits over $10K because she'd have to fill out a CTR.

It's pretty easy for bank investigators to tell who is actively trying to avoid a CTR filing. Structured cash deposits/withdrawals is a felony and is often something the feds will use to take a deeper dive into someone's account.


The use/deposit/withdrawal of cash should not be "probable cause" for shite and certainly should not trigger any reporting requirements.
Posted by VADawg
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Member since Nov 2011
48416 posts
Posted on 5/23/23 at 2:11 pm to
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The use/deposit/withdrawal of cash should not be "probable cause" for shite and certainly should not trigger any reporting requirements.


I agree. I don't make the rules, I just know what they are. If a bank sees that you have a history of what look to be structured cash deposits/withdrawals, they'll probably call you to figure out if there's a legitimate explanation for it (i.e. if the bank branches don't have enough cash on hand). If they don't get a response, or if the response isn't a good one, they'll report your account to the Treasury and the Treasury decides what to do from there. It has to really stand out to get the Treasury's attention though. If they decide to investigate, they can use structured cash as a way to dig deeper. Banks have to do this because regulators and auditors will have a field day with them if they don't.

Moral of the story is don't try to intentionally avoid a CTR by splitting up the size of your cash transactions. That's easy for a trained bank employee to spot and most banks will shut your account down if that pattern of activity doesn't stop over time.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
102836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
46919 posts
Posted on 5/23/23 at 2:16 pm to
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What kind of business because PPP was based on payroll, not revenue.


IT services.

I assumed the banks were asking g for that to prove we actually had that payroll flowing through the business.
Posted by CR4090
Member since Apr 2023
9509 posts
Posted on 5/23/23 at 2:18 pm to
I'm pretty sure it doesn't get more suspicious than making 5 separate deposits in 92 minutes while trying not to be suspicious.

That's what you get with a Southern Education?
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 5/23/23 at 2:24 pm to
I'm pretty sure we just had to give our 941's.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
14047 posts
Posted on 5/23/23 at 2:29 pm to
Turned on the cash spigot after years of sky screaming about regulations and oversite crippling American businesses and then acting shocked when folks took buckets of cash because regulation and oversite are counter to the unfailing market...you had to see it coming...
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Member since Jan 2023
14047 posts
Posted on 5/23/23 at 2:33 pm to
No doubt the majority of comments to this thread will focus on race because, well we all know why even though most of you will claim if it exists at all it only harms white folks....but apparently at least 65 billion $ of the $800 billion, which was signed into law by a "conservative" was receieved fraudently. This old gal, guilty as she is, was not even a drop in the bucket. Folks of all races, creeds, sexual orientations and probably nationalities were toting money off as fast as they could...and anyone with a brain knen when Trump cracked the valve this would be the outcome.
Posted by RealDawg
Dawgville
Member since Nov 2012
11315 posts
Posted on 5/23/23 at 2:43 pm to
$378,410,624,804 In EIDL LOANS issued. Most 30 years. 3.75%

Not PPP…EIDL.

I had one I’ve been paying back already.

Gonna be the next student loan issue.

No personal guarantees needed unless it was over like $200k.

Rumored they aren’t even trying to collect those under $100k.

This post was edited on 5/23/23 at 2:53 pm
Posted by Kattail
Member since Aug 2020
4217 posts
Posted on 5/23/23 at 2:47 pm to
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I’d love to know the REAL number of fraudulent claims of all that PPP money


You can see recipients by parish, massive fraud.
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