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re: Louisiana Supreme Court Will Not Review Life Sentence For Man Who Stole Hedge Clippers
Posted on 8/9/20 at 8:29 am to BamaCoaster
Posted on 8/9/20 at 8:29 am to BamaCoaster
Use those critical thinking skills to take a joke dumbass
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Posted on 8/9/20 at 8:29 am to The Third Leg
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Only a moron would agree that this is what the worlds most advanced civilization should look like, and that this is a good use of resources.
Most advanced “civilization”?
My friend, life jail sentenced for habitual offenders is WAY WAY down on the list of the examples of how far below that bar we are.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 8:29 am to saint tiger225
Yes, that's what I remember reading but I didn't want to say it definitively and have someone respond ACKSHUALLY IT'S MISSISSIPPI or some shite.
We've created a revolving door of incarceration in our state. We make no attempt to rehabilitate people and then wonder why our communities have so many broken homes, so much crime, and so much poverty.
We've created a revolving door of incarceration in our state. We make no attempt to rehabilitate people and then wonder why our communities have so many broken homes, so much crime, and so much poverty.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 8:30 am to yellowfin
quote:It's a different topic and one I'm more sympathetic to.
They all cost taxpayers money
Posted on 8/9/20 at 8:30 am to theronswanson
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What a wasted life
Nah. Probably didn’t matter.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 8:32 am to Jake88
Seems backwards. Maybe they would have a more defensible position if they would have given him life after the armed robbery. But you give it to him after he steals some bullshite because of some 3 strikes law.
Come on man, I'm not for stealing or any of that crap, but it's just backwards as frick what they did.
You can't say you're for justice and then also be ok with this. Most of his charges, people don't get shite for them, but his were allowed to stack up and become life?
Come on man, I'm not for stealing or any of that crap, but it's just backwards as frick what they did.
You can't say you're for justice and then also be ok with this. Most of his charges, people don't get shite for them, but his were allowed to stack up and become life?
Posted on 8/9/20 at 8:33 am to hendersonshands
quote:This can't be said enough.
We've created a revolving door of incarceration in our state. We make no attempt to rehabilitate people and then wonder why our communities have so many broken homes, so much crime, and so much poverty.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 8:34 am to saint tiger225
quote:They were probably cutting him a break after the att. armed robbery but he proved unruly.
Come on man, I'm not for stealing or any of that crap, but it's just backwards as frick what they did.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 8:38 am to hendersonshands
Honestly, as bad as it sounds, the state doesn't need to undertake a massive effort directed at habitual offenders in prisons now. In 90% of cases, you're simply not going to convince a person,
even a 25 year old, who has been pulling armed robberies and drug rips since he was 12 to change. Throwing a ton of money at a lost cause makes no sense. I'd honestly write them off.
If it's going to use its limited resources, it has to direct it at youth - both through general education and then a vastly improved juvenile justice system. There need to be robust programs to redirect the next generation, giving judges a lot of progressive steps before someone has to actually go to prison for the first time. If you're going to impact the most for generations to come, it's there.
even a 25 year old, who has been pulling armed robberies and drug rips since he was 12 to change. Throwing a ton of money at a lost cause makes no sense. I'd honestly write them off.
If it's going to use its limited resources, it has to direct it at youth - both through general education and then a vastly improved juvenile justice system. There need to be robust programs to redirect the next generation, giving judges a lot of progressive steps before someone has to actually go to prison for the first time. If you're going to impact the most for generations to come, it's there.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 8:39 am to Jake88
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Remember, he was only caught those three times. It is not likely those were his only crimes. He demonstrated a dangerous pattern and deserved to be removed from society. He was only a spreader of misery.
Yeah because that's how the law works "oh he might have committed some other crimes so lets factor in what else he might have done".
Look at it from strictly a tax dollars point of view. Wouldn't it be a lot less cheaper to provide people, who commit certain crimes, with some type of rehabilitation that also helps them get some type of skill so they can be productive member of society than to keep them in prison for the rest of their life, which can cost a lot of money?
Posted on 8/9/20 at 8:40 am to hendersonshands
quote:This always sounds caring and thoughtful.
We've created a revolving door of incarceration in our state. We make no attempt to rehabilitate people and then wonder why our communities have so many broken homes, so much crime, and so much poverty
Why is there a revolving door? You want people released, right?
You worry about costs, what would it cost to assign every criminal a social worker and life coach...basically to teach all of these people how to be functioning citizens. How many years would that take?
Our communities have broken homes and poverty not because of jailing people, rather, because a number of people are so dysfunctional.
This post was edited on 8/9/20 at 8:43 am
Posted on 8/9/20 at 8:41 am to OweO
quote:Indidnt say the law worked like that. The law worked as it did, based on convictions.
Yeah because that's how the law works "oh he might have committed some other crimes so lets factor in what else he might have done".
Posted on 8/9/20 at 8:41 am to Jake88
quote:This is stupid as frick, especially since it seems like you may not know why a lot of people are locked up.
Yet, we still have a crime rate amongst the free that is through the roof. Seems the incarceration rate is justified, if not too low.
The fact we STILL lock people up for weed is a fricking joke.
I'm a registered independent but lean right and voted for Trump, etc etc. But, if Republicans can't start changing their views on gay marriage (which I think they've finally given up on) and locking people up for weed, then eventually, they'll be a dead party.
We can't sit here and say we want less involvement by government, then be ok with locking people up for weed or trying to decide who can marry. I've never understood why people give a frick about people smoking weed, especially when it's much safer to most than alcohol or who cares who the frick people marry. As long as people are good people, who gives a frick?
Posted on 8/9/20 at 8:41 am to Jake88
quote:
This is stupid. I'll cast stones as I please, I've not committed Armed Robbery.
What is stupid is the fact that people can commit worse crimes, but if they have the resources to do so, can hire a good lawyer and serve a lot less time.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 8:41 am to saint tiger225
quote:
Most of his charges, people don't get shite for them, but his were allowed to stack up and become life?
It's not like this came out of the blue. Each time he was sentenced, the judge said "this charge is a felony under Louisiana law, and as such it can be used to enhance your sentence as a habitual offender should you be convicted of a subsequent felony in the future."
He heard this over and over again.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 8:43 am to Jake88
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Every week we hear of crimes committed by previous offenders
Which is why it would make more sense to invest in rehabilitation and helping them get some type of skill.
When someone gets out of jail their options are limited which means they have to go back to the only thing they know.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 8:45 am to Jimbeaux
quote:
Most advanced “civilization”?
Name the civilization that has advanced beyond that of the American empire.
quote:
My friend, life jail sentenced for habitual offenders is WAY WAY down on the list of the examples of how far below that bar we are.
It’s a dumb response to jail a man for life for a series of transgressions that resulted in limited collateral damage. And a costly one. Life in prison is a rarity in most of the world.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 8:45 am to saint tiger225
quote:Where? You hear of drug court? You sound like you've been propagandized.
The fact we STILL lock people up for weed is a fricking joke
quote:I'm probably more aware than you as im closer to these situations.
This is stupid as frick, especially since it seems like you may not know why a lot of people are locked up
This post was edited on 8/9/20 at 8:46 am
Posted on 8/9/20 at 8:45 am to Jake88
quote:You must not know what the black family was like before the drug war was enacted. A phony arse drug "war" has almost single handedly destroyed families in the black community.
Our communities have broken homes and poverty not because of jailing people, rather, because a number of people are so dysfunctional.
And sure, you can say they should have never started selling to begin with, and I can agree to an extent. However, when people don't want to hire you, what would you do to support your family?
Posted on 8/9/20 at 8:47 am to saint tiger225
quote:Im not talking of black people particularly. There are criminals from every race roaming about every day.
You must not know what the black family was like before the drug war was enacted. A phony arse drug "war" has almost single handedly destroyed families in the black community
Now do what the black family as well as others looked like before The Great Society was passed.
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