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Posted on 3/29/16 at 5:00 pm to NIH
HUD requires me to have background checks on every subcontractor I hire and make us use a certain company to obtain them. I have so many contractors tell me about weed charges before we even send it to the company that does the processing and not once has a person been denied over it. They go back 10 years too.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 5:01 pm to Gradual_Stroke
Once you're in the system, you're fricked. There are reasons cops like busting people for petty shite, now they're marked
Posted on 3/29/16 at 5:02 pm to Gradual_Stroke
Poor + less educated= more crime. We fit the bill.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 5:02 pm to stout
I agree, I don't smoke weed as much as I would like to because the risk just isn't worth it.
Nevertheless people who are younger have brains that assess long term risk much differently than someone over 25.
Additionally if you cannot see the full negative impacts of being accustomed to and a part of the justice system from the age of say 13 or 15 then I can't help you over the Internet.
Suffice to say, there have been a lot of studies of how we react to incarceration and that research tends to show that it only leads to more criminality and more incarceration. If it makes you feel better to just say "criminals will be criminals" (or go full racist and say this is an issue confined to blacks) then go ahead. I'm not going to change your mind, but the fact don't actually support that narrative.
Nevertheless people who are younger have brains that assess long term risk much differently than someone over 25.
Additionally if you cannot see the full negative impacts of being accustomed to and a part of the justice system from the age of say 13 or 15 then I can't help you over the Internet.
Suffice to say, there have been a lot of studies of how we react to incarceration and that research tends to show that it only leads to more criminality and more incarceration. If it makes you feel better to just say "criminals will be criminals" (or go full racist and say this is an issue confined to blacks) then go ahead. I'm not going to change your mind, but the fact don't actually support that narrative.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 5:05 pm to CorporateTiger
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Additionally if you cannot see the full negative impacts of being accustomed to and a part of the justice system from the age of say 13 or 15 then I can't help you over the Internet.
If you're incarcerated as a juvenile you probably have a lot worse factors in your life that lead to crime than smoking weed.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 5:06 pm to CorporateTiger
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(or go full racist and say this is an issue confined to blacks)
It's an issue mostly confined to poverty, lack of education, lack of parental guidance, lack of opportunity (which goes back to education), etc and there is a reason that 2/3rds of the prison population in America is black. It's not because they are popped for some petty weed charge at 13.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 5:08 pm to NIH
Of course none of this is isolated from socio-economic status. I am not trying to make any argue it isn't. What I am saying is that getting into a schoolyard fight at 13 and getting sent to juvie or even having to deal with a probation has significant life-long impacts. For kids that already have a narrow path to climb the ladder in life, it is nearly a death kneel to upward mobility.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 5:10 pm to CorporateTiger
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, it is nearly a death kneel to upward mobility.
Wrong again. That would be having a lack of parenting.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 5:11 pm to Gradual_Stroke
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Legalizing and regulating "drugs" is a start.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 5:13 pm to NIH
I agree which is why I said these kids already have such a narrow road to advancement. From birth they already face longer odds than a kid born into a functioning household. The institutionalization is just completing something that began at conception (potentially including FAS).
Posted on 3/29/16 at 5:16 pm to CorporateTiger
Spending a few nights in juvie would deter kids from normal homes from ever committing a crime again. Not only from the horror of the place, but from the shame they brought their parents the discipline that would be handed down at home. If no one gives a shite what a kid does there isn't much to deter he or she from being dysfunctional for the rest of their life.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 5:18 pm to NIH
Again the actual science on this issue says that being exposed to these institutions creates of a cycle of criminality.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 5:21 pm to CorporateTiger
What's your solution?
Posted on 3/29/16 at 5:24 pm to Gradual_Stroke
I think this is awesome.
Better #MindYourManners in the Boot.
Better #MindYourManners in the Boot.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 5:26 pm to Scruffy
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f it is decades old news, why the frick is it still happening?
Because we as a state are about as arse backwards as one can get?
Ftr, was just fricking with the OP. In no way support being number one in this realm. Find it sickening tbh.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 5:29 pm to NIH
Legalizing drugs and decriminalizing possession would be a huge step. Additionally reducing the amount of criminality associated with certain acts such as shoplifting would be another improvement. Enforcement practices in schools which over-rely on the use of police need to be ended also. Mandatory minimums and for profit prisons should also go.
Realistically though to fully solve the situation would require a massive overhaul of welfare which ties financial incentives with creating stable households and communities. Absent that you can create incremental improvement, but not solve the issue.
Realistically though to fully solve the situation would require a massive overhaul of welfare which ties financial incentives with creating stable households and communities. Absent that you can create incremental improvement, but not solve the issue.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 5:34 pm to CorporateTiger
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dditionally reducing the amount of criminality associated with certain acts such as shoplifting would be another improvement.
You're kidding right? I understand drugs as it's a persons choice, but the reducing the punishment for theft would only encourage young thugs who are already growing up with no empathy or respect for people's property.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 5:34 pm to Gradual_Stroke
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How does something like this happen in this country?
Posted on 3/29/16 at 5:39 pm to NIH
No I am not kidding. The science shows that shoplifting a pair of jeans often has life-long negative impacts on a person's life. It generally doesn't teach them respect for personal property, it puts them in a position where they end up committing worse crimes.
I will also say that eliminating the link between fines/fees and local government funding would be a huge step.
I will also say that eliminating the link between fines/fees and local government funding would be a huge step.
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