re: LOL, deranged Americans rooting for Belgium tonight.

5 years from now he’ll be caught with 8 terabytes of child pron

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There’s a difference between refusing to support a U.S. team that is openly “embarrassed” by the country it represents, and actively celebrating the failure of a U.S. team because they had the nerve to do a silly dance the President does.

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Can't believe I'm responding to you, but here goes nothing.

If having an idea of what America should represent or once represented and feeling like it is failing to live up to that idea or standard makes you unpatriotic, then every political creature is unpatriotic during cycles when they have little or no representation.

Hope that helps.

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That's a funny argument, because I think there are plenty of American institutions and cultural trends that have gotten objectively worse over the last couple of decades. The difference is, if I list them, I'm willing to bet you'll call me a racist, bigot, or some kind of "-phobe" instead of engaging with the substance.

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If you listed them, I don't know what I'd call you. I know what I wouldn't could you -- unpatriotic.

Dude "disrespecting the country" is the same thing as unpatriotic. Do I really need to type all the words?

The difference is why. Conservatives argued the USWNT had rejected the country it represented (they did). The Reddit thread is celebrating the USMNT losing because they embraced the country in a way they disliked. Once again, that’s not the same rationale.

to simplify it: one side is objecting to what they viewed as hostility toward the country itself. The other is objecting to an expression of patriotism because of its political association. =/= as I said from the beginning of this argument that I “can’t believe” you stepped off that high horse of yours to make.

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Ok. You win.

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see ya bud!

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If having an idea of what America should represent or once represented and feeling like it is failing to live up to that idea or standard makes you unpatriotic

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It’s never “once” represented with the left unless you are continuing the lie about stuff like trans rights getting pushed by elites and Biden’s Autopen for several years as being long standing rights when conservatives push back.

The “should” represent can definitely be unpatriotic when it goes against long standing American values. If you want to fundamentally change America into something it has never been including becoming more like the 3rd world countries of recent illegals and temporary refugees you are being unpatriotic.

I am not playing that game where questioning the patriotism of someone who dislikes the US and wants to weaken the country is wrong. Michelle Obama’s first time to ever be proud of her country was after her husband was elected which also put her in the spot light and gave her power. She is one of the most unpatriotic people in the country, and her bitch of a husband is right behind her in that ranking (obviously she is behind him in the bedroom). These are not teenagers learning their way in life but are professional politicians who know damn well that they are fighting to vilify America and turn it into a Socialist utopia if not a Communist nation with one party rule.

My view of patriotism is that you love the country, its ideals, and its Constitution independent from the politicians currently running the federal govt. If you can only show pride in the US when one of your ilk is President you aren’t patriotic.

Wasn't Belgium the worst colonial country? Interesting how the wokesters forgot about that.

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Well it would be German if not for us, so they can all frick right off.

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Actually it’s Flemish. I worked with someone that is from Belgium (native, born and raised) and I assumed incorrectly that they would speak French but they corrected me saying that there are quite a number of French speaking Belgian citizens but the “national language” is Flemish. Who knew.