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re: Little League Dilemma: Was I in the Right or Wrong? UPDATE PG.15

Posted on 2/16/15 at 9:19 am to
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
55010 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 9:19 am to
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STFU.


Don't get an attitude and start cursing...

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You want to teach kids character? Then teach them to show mercy once they already have a team more than beat.


Maybe the lesson is for the coach? Thus he is questioning his own judgement and brought it here? As a parent, I can only teach my son how to respond to what jut happened on the field and that's basically where my comments are coming from...

10 runs is not that bad.

"there is no crying in baseball"... take it up Tom Hanks!
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
33915 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 9:21 am to
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Life's not going to show anyone mercy.


And life isn't going to give you a cheat code either, ala a kid who can't throw to second that you can steal on anytime you want.
Posted by OLDBEACHCOMBER
Member since Jan 2004
7345 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 9:25 am to
If it's against the rules why didn't the umpire stop it. Is he banned also.

When my kids played 7-8 basketball they couldn't Fast break if up by 10. They would do it all the time. The ref would just blow the whistle and make them go back to mid court even if they had already scored.
If stealing when up by 10 is illegal the ump should have just made the player return to the base.
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
19459 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 9:25 am to
Well, some people are better at finding the cheat codes than others. Perhaps some of the kids from this story will grow up to be one of the ones that is adept at it and their life will be easier than ones who aren't.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
172338 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 9:29 am to
i'm pretty sure about 3 kids on that opposing team won't make it out of college and will commit suicide and stemming from this game.
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
19459 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 9:32 am to
Oh, for sure
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
55661 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 9:34 am to
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So they need to learn how to win...Do you agree with that?


Kinda. They need to learn how to prepare, play and deal with the outcome whatever that might be. Winning and losing. Not to sound too cheesy but, it is how they win and lose that is more important in my opinion than the actual W or L.

As a coach, surely you want to put your kids in a spot so they can gain confidence and be competitive. But there should be other objectives for the coach as well and there comes a point when the competitive balance of a game has been lost that there are other lessons that can be taught.

A good coach doesn't lose sight of that and sadly, the % of good coaches out there is slim.

Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
55010 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 9:36 am to
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And life isn't going to give you a cheat code either, ala a kid who can't throw to second that you can steal on anytime you want.


Conversely, life, character, habits exposes everything ...If you can't balance your checkbook, your finance charges won't care how many or how often.. Is is...

how you were raised along with YOUR EXPERIENCES define or shape who will become as AN adult...

Again, maybe the coach was out of line.

As a parent, what do you teach your son if his team gets the score run up on?

frankly, my son would be offended and embarrassed if I went and whined about the other coach running up the score...

He would be ticked his team wasn't better or better coached. That's good IMHO...
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
55010 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 9:41 am to
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A good coach doesn't lose sight of that and sadly, the % of good coaches out there is slim


that's because these are usually parents who coach on a volunteer basis. They are working professionals not real coaches...

If I am not willing to help coach, I try very hard to refrain from being critical.

Humans make mistakes..we are prideful and selfish etc.. parents can be over the top zealous too.

The point for the young player is to enjoy the game, work on having a good attitude, listen to the coaches, practice what they teach, be a good teammate..be a good sportsman..

The rest is just chatter

Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 9:44 am to
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You were in the wrong to pour it on

Don't steal bases when you are winning by 10+


This.

So you don't tip at restaurants and were banned from little league...

You're the issue
Posted by Kickadawgitfeelsgood
Lafayette LA
Member since Nov 2005
14090 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 9:44 am to
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When my kids played 7-8 basketball they couldn't Fast break if up by 10. They would do it all the time


So basically, your kids were not listeners and you were not a good teacher.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
33915 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 9:45 am to
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Well, some people are better at finding the cheat codes than others. Perhaps some of the kids from this story will grow up to be one of the ones that is adept at it and their life will be easier than ones who aren't.


Sure, I guess "playing the lottery" could be an occupation.
Posted by bigcgt27
Member since Jan 2012
183 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 9:45 am to
Well....it's a good thing Brian McCann's kid wasn't the catcher for the other team. He wouldn't put up with all of this showboating nonsense.



Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
55661 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 9:46 am to
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that's because these are usually parents who coach on a volunteer basis. They are working professionals not real coaches


Oh, I agree. There are more unqualified youth sports coaches than there are crossfit instructors and there's a ton of those. It's one of my main problems with the system of youth sports as it is and the biggest factor in us deciding what sports and where our daughter participates in.

Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
55661 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 9:47 am to
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So basically, your kids were not listeners and you were not a good teacher.



Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
33915 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 9:48 am to
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Conversely, life, character, habits exposes everything ...If you can't balance your checkbook, your finance charges won't care how many or how often.. Is is...

how you were raised along with YOUR EXPERIENCES define or shape who will become as AN adult...

Again, maybe the coach was out of line.

As a parent, what do you teach your son if his team gets the score run up on?

frankly, my son would be offended and embarrassed if I went and whined about the other coach running up the score...

He would be ticked his team wasn't better or better coached. That's good IMHO...


I think every kid on that field was just relieved they were not that catcher and the only lesson learned was, "don't be the weakest" and if there is a weakest they should be exposed and eliminated.

I will continue to raise my kids to enjoy getting better and love success, not fear losing.
Posted by Assassin
Member since Apr 2013
258 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 9:50 am to
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If I am not willing to help coach, I try very hard to refrain from being critical.

Humans make mistakes..we are prideful and selfish etc.. parents can be over the top zealous too.

The point for the young player is to enjoy the game, work on having a good attitude, listen to the coaches, practice what they teach, be a good teammate..be a good sportsman..
And some of that involves, constructive though it may, having to be critical, at times.
Posted by Kickadawgitfeelsgood
Lafayette LA
Member since Nov 2005
14090 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 9:50 am to
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oh, we hit a nerve did we?...perhaps making my point that America is raising weak, thin skinned individuals?


You have zero impact on my life. You made no point. Just rambling about something you know nothing about.

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In short, getting embarrassed in competition is part of life..


And I hope the wannabe coach understands this. It is my hope he learns...though I doubt someone of little baseball knowledge and incredible stupidity will. Hopefully, the league's actions against will present a clearer view for him.
This post was edited on 2/16/15 at 9:53 am
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 9:56 am to
I love the pussification of America bullshite that completely ignores the shortcomings of their own generation
This post was edited on 2/16/15 at 9:57 am
Posted by TigerTreyjpg
Monroe, LA
Member since Jun 2008
5815 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 10:29 am to
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stealing up 10 runs is wrong. shite even in the MLB that is heavily frowned upon, much less little league


Dude I used work work with was severely pissed when Ricky Henderson broke Lou Brock's record (he was a big time Card's fan). Claimed a shite ton of Henderson's steals were stat padders. Can remember it to this day. "When Lou Brock stole a base, it freakin meant something!"
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