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Posted on 7/20/21 at 6:42 am to goldennugget
Wow! Crazy stuff. I thought it was like this but not to this degree. Sorry to hear. What position did your dad hold in the pros?
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Posted on 7/20/21 at 9:11 am to BottomlandBrew
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You and I could probably swap stories as kids of Amway parents
All of that is accurate. I even remember the kids books like Just Wait Till We're Diamond used to brainwash kids.
And my parents still call it "the business".
Posted on 7/20/21 at 9:12 am to Sebastian
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Sorry to hear. What position did your dad hold in the pros?
Director of Sports Sales for the radio station that carried the Rangers and Stars broadcasts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 9:13 am to OWLFAN86
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Lets talk about Amway
Best sales pitch:
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You are not buying anything you are only self consuming
Posted on 7/20/21 at 9:35 am to goldennugget
quote:You’re fkn kidding me? This sounds like Scientology.
I even remember the kids books like Just Wait Till We're Diamond used to brainwash kids.
Posted on 7/20/21 at 9:37 am to OWLFAN86
When I was young, maybe preteens. I had an aunt and uncle go into Amway. Their sons, my cousins, were close in age and we grew up more like brothers than cousins..
Anyway, I just remember when my aunt and uncle went into it, all of a sudden every product in their house was Amway. It might be better now, I don't know, but it seemed like everything from Amway was a cheap version of other brands.
They always had the small bags of chips (the multi bag with different types.. Lays, Doritos, etc) at their house and when they were in Amway, they switched to the Amway brand of chips, which was a knockoff of lays, doritos, etc..
All of a sudden my aunt and uncle started talking about how Amway was the key to building wealth, etc, etc and they would go to these meetings and I think they went to Florida to some convention a few times. They were ate up with it.. And it seems like one day I went there (I was there at least once a week) and just like that, every Amway product they had was gone, and the finally had the good chips again.
That's all I can tell you about Amway.
Oh.. And I remember my daddy used to tell me "don't say anything to them about it, but that Amway crap is total bullshite". I wasn't sure why, but I just remember always thinking it was total bullshite.
Anyway, I just remember when my aunt and uncle went into it, all of a sudden every product in their house was Amway. It might be better now, I don't know, but it seemed like everything from Amway was a cheap version of other brands.
They always had the small bags of chips (the multi bag with different types.. Lays, Doritos, etc) at their house and when they were in Amway, they switched to the Amway brand of chips, which was a knockoff of lays, doritos, etc..
All of a sudden my aunt and uncle started talking about how Amway was the key to building wealth, etc, etc and they would go to these meetings and I think they went to Florida to some convention a few times. They were ate up with it.. And it seems like one day I went there (I was there at least once a week) and just like that, every Amway product they had was gone, and the finally had the good chips again.
That's all I can tell you about Amway.
Oh.. And I remember my daddy used to tell me "don't say anything to them about it, but that Amway crap is total bullshite". I wasn't sure why, but I just remember always thinking it was total bullshite.
Posted on 7/20/21 at 9:45 am to goldennugget
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Mid to late 90s
The time frame in the story I just posted was early to mid 90s..
I do think they started to realize it was bullshite and got out before they got more into, but if someone gets into it and they buy all of their products from Amway, that only helps the person who got them into it and above right? In other words, it doesn't really benefit you to buy for yourself?
So then they have to go out and try to convince people to get into this company and start using their products.. And from what I recall, they pushed the idea that if you want wealth you have to work for it and that means going out getting people to join Amway.
Posted on 7/20/21 at 9:50 am to OWLFAN86
Keith Raniere blended Amway with Scientology and some self-help books to cattle brand some hoes.
Posted on 7/20/21 at 9:52 am to Sebastian
It's not a joke. It's crazy. They even had these cassette tapes with the motivational speeches mixed with music to get the whole family hyped.
I consider my parents reasonably intelligent people. My dad ran a successful company for 40 years and my mother was an attorney, yet somehow they got duped. My dad's business went through a real rough patch in the early 90s, so he was real down on it. Amway preys on people like that. Like nugget said, it's a cult. The higher ups know exactly what they are doing.
I consider my parents reasonably intelligent people. My dad ran a successful company for 40 years and my mother was an attorney, yet somehow they got duped. My dad's business went through a real rough patch in the early 90s, so he was real down on it. Amway preys on people like that. Like nugget said, it's a cult. The higher ups know exactly what they are doing.
Posted on 7/20/21 at 9:55 am to BottomlandBrew
I vaguely remember a neighbor coming to our house selling Amway products to my mom. I had to have been 6 or 7, so probably late 70's. Mom did buy a bottle of laundry detergent(I only remember that because she turned the empty into a piggy bank where she put loose change for years while emptying pockets at the washing machine) and maybe a couple of other things. I remember my dad getting pissed and going over to this neighbor's house. We never really saw much of those neighbors after that.
That's my only Amway memory.
That's my only Amway memory.
Posted on 7/20/21 at 9:55 am to OweO
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And from what I recall, they pushed the idea that if you want wealth you have to work for it and that means going out getting people to join Amway.
Yep, in the early 90's ('90-'93) each decent sized city would have Amway seminars at large venues. In Lafayette, Amway would always have it monthly at the large Hilton off of Pinhook...minimum 500-1000 people would show up getting bilked out of their seed capital.
Posted on 7/20/21 at 10:01 am to BottomlandBrew
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It's not a joke. It's crazy. They even had these cassette tapes with the motivational speeches mixed with music to get the whole family hyped.
I remember the one that had Jefferson Starship's "Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now" on it. Each time I hear that song all I think of is Amway.
Posted on 7/20/21 at 10:03 am to Tomatocantender
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('90-'93)
Yeah, I am pretty sure I was in middle school and this would have been exactly during that time!
The only things I really remember were the products seemed to be watered down versions of the real thing, especially the chips..
They would talk about how people who lived in poverty could climb their way out with Amway and they would go to conventions.
Posted on 7/20/21 at 10:04 am to goldennugget
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"Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now"
Kim Catrall was a hot POA back in the day. She's all I can think of when I hear that song.
Posted on 7/20/21 at 10:04 am to OweO
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All of a sudden my aunt and uncle started talking about how Amway was the key to building wealth, etc, etc and they would go to these meetings and I think they went to Florida to some convention a few times. They were ate up with it.. And it seems like one day I went there (I was there at least once a week) and just like that, every Amway product they had was gone, and the finally had the good chips again.
They were probably financially ruined and just couldn't do it anymore.
Also there was a 60 Minutes piece on Amway about the tool scam and how the real money in Amway was made by uplines forcing their downlines to buy the tapes, books, and trips to the functions. The higher pin level uplines got a direct cut of the sales of these tapes, books, and had deals in place with the arenas and hotels booked for the functions to get a cut of those sales as well. Yet this was all secret and hidden from the downlines. This is why the high pin uplines forced their downlines to buy these things and shamed them/ostracized if they didn't.
Once this secret got out Amway even had to change its name a couple times(Quixtar, then Alticor before switching back to Amway) just to get away from the bad PR that the 60 Minutes piece let out. Many people quit Amway once the tool scam became public knowledge.
Posted on 7/20/21 at 10:06 am to OweO
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The only things I really remember were the products seemed to be watered down versions of the real thing, especially the chips..
The snack brand was called "Critic's Choice". They were pretty bad. They had potato chips, cheetos knockoffs, popcorn.
Glister was the mouthwash and toothpaste brand
Artistry = Makeup
Satinique = Shampoo and Body Wash
Nutralife = Vitamins
Dish Drops = Dishwashing Liquid
Posted on 7/20/21 at 10:09 am to BottomlandBrew
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I consider my parents reasonably intelligent people. My dad ran a successful company for 40 years and my mother was an attorney
I'm assuming back then people just didn't have the knowledge of pyramid schemes like they do now. I'm not ever really shocked when I see someone now involved in a pyramid scheme.... kinda fits their mold.
Listened to an interesting podcast regarding pyramid schemes. Apparently it is very popular with Mormon's. Makes the women feel in charge and worth something without having to actually "work".
Posted on 7/20/21 at 10:09 am to goldennugget
Oh man, I haven't thought of those names in ages.
For the few years my parents were involved, they'd hand my sister and I the catalogues and ask us what we wanted for Christmas. If it wasn't in one of those catalogues, we weren't getting it.
For the few years my parents were involved, they'd hand my sister and I the catalogues and ask us what we wanted for Christmas. If it wasn't in one of those catalogues, we weren't getting it.
Posted on 7/20/21 at 10:09 am to OWLFAN86
Even the Jehovah's Witnesses run and hide from Amway people!
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