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re: Let me complain about Illinois for a bit... NEW ADDITION, PG 9

Posted on 6/5/19 at 9:33 am to
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 9:33 am to
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is this for all of Illinois, or is this mostly Chicago specific taxes/fees?


A lot of it is Chicago only.
Posted by LaBR4
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
50893 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 9:34 am to
I've been to Illinois and have filled up a rental car with gas while I was there
This post was edited on 6/5/19 at 9:37 am
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20508 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 9:34 am to
I honestly don't understand why they are so broke? I guess its just because such a huge portion of the population in the South side pays leaches off everyone else? The burbs to the west and north are prospering, the down town area is prospering.

So where is the leach that is so bad?
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
31255 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 9:35 am to
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Come on down!




It is pretty expensive. $/sq ft rivals Chicago. But take out a lot of those other things I listed and it'd still be a net positive. Plus better 4 season weather.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 9:36 am to
I'm still reeling from the fact someone just tried to say Atlanta is better than Chicago in the Summer.


Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20508 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 9:38 am to
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I'm still reeling from the fact someone just tried to say Atlanta is better than Chicago in the Summer.


Then the other guy said hold my beer and said Memphis was...or at least was better than Illinois.
Posted by VolsOut4Harambe
Atlanta, GA
Member since Sep 2017
12856 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 9:38 am to
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I'm still reeling from the fact someone just tried to say Atlanta is better than Chicago in the Summer.



In the summer, yes. ATL heat can be unbearable at times.

During every other season, however, ATL is much better.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 9:38 am to
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It is pretty expensive. $/sq ft rivals Chicago. But take out a lot of those other things I listed and it'd still be a net positive. Plus better 4 season weather.



We do have 4 great seasons. Summer has some brutal days, but quite tolerable for a guy from South Louisiana (people here are pussies about it though).

Winter gets cold and we have occasional snow, but not "I can't feel my face when I go to the mailbox" cold.

Spring and Fall are pretty unbelievable.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
31255 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 9:39 am to
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I honestly don't understand why they are so broke? I guess its just because such a huge portion of the population in the South side pays leaches off everyone else? The burbs to the west and north are prospering, the down town area is prospering.

So where is the leach that is so bad?


The state pensions. A while back they baked guaranteed yearly pension benefit increases independent the economy into the constitution of the state. And our public workers get paid VERY WELL...and they game the system to get undeserved benefit levels locked in. It's the way the machine came to power is by promising those benefits. And because they added it to the state constitution it's nearly impossible to fight. Never mind no politician (other than Rauner who's now gone and Rahm, who kinda tried) would go there because it would be political suicide. Not to mention the judges are state employees...so good luck.

quote:

According to the report, Illinois’ unfunded pension liabilities grew 25 percent in fiscal year 2017 to $250 billion.
This post was edited on 6/5/19 at 9:40 am
Posted by VolsOut4Harambe
Atlanta, GA
Member since Sep 2017
12856 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 9:39 am to
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tldr: Illinois is run by a bunch of crooked Chicago democrats who squander taxpayer money like it's Halloween candy.



FIFY
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 9:39 am to
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In the summer, yes. ATL heat can be unbearable at times.

During every other season, however, ATL is much better


Heat is one thing, the overall city of Chicago itself though, in the Summer, is world class fun.

You can throw weather out the window and it still isn't close in the Summer.

The winter is absolutely unlivable to me though.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
31255 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 9:40 am to
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Atlanta is better than Chicago in the Summer.


Atlanta is never better than Chicago. That's the most scorching of absurd takes.
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
Good Ole Rocky Top Tennessee
Member since Jan 2010
21644 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 9:40 am to
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Just yesterday we found out that the state of Illinois is going to double the gas tax to $.38 per gallon,


Alabama raise ours $.10 per gallon and people went nuts. People mostly went nuts because they voted for a governor without making her explain her policies or debate then they were mad when he enacted her policies.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43374 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 9:41 am to
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I can't believe someone just tried to make that argument


I've been to every city I listed, as well as Chicago, during multiple seasons.

My list stands.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43374 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 9:41 am to
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Atlanta is never better than Chicago.


Ya, it is. And that says more about Chicago than it does Atlanta.

Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83617 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 9:42 am to
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Ya, it is.


Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 9:42 am to
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During every other season, however, ATL is much better.



Give me a chilly early Fall day taking the train from Downtown to Wrigleyville for a playoff game, then back downtown for a Chicago steakhouse dinner and some live music in an upscale jazz bar any day over what there is in Atlanta.

Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
31255 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 9:42 am to
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VolsOut4Harambe


Thanks. Accurate.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
31255 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 9:43 am to
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My list stands.


Cool, well, most would consider your list terrible.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43374 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 9:44 am to
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Cool, well, most would consider your list terrible.


Not really. I mean isn't the entire point of this thread the fact you hate Illinois and all the taxes and other crap you have to deal with in Chicago?

First you bitch about it, now you're defending it as the most amazing city in the US.




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