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re: Law school enrollments are falling off a cliff

Posted on 4/23/15 at 3:55 pm to
Posted by PrideofTheSEC
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Posted on 4/23/15 at 3:55 pm to
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work 50+ hours a week in law school (at least for the first year) 
yikes I start at LSU law this fall. I figured you spend about 15-25 hours a week studying outside the classroom.
This post was edited on 4/23/15 at 3:58 pm
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 4/23/15 at 3:59 pm to
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I think I read that New York is considering to make law school 2 years instead of 3.


I think it should just be one year. Learn legal research and writing plus take some of the basic 1L classes to get an idea of how legal reasoning works then you move on to an apprenticeship where you really learn what a lawyer does.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 4/23/15 at 4:00 pm to
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yikes I start at LSU law this fall. I figured you spend about 15-25 hours a week studying outside the classroom.



I'm not going to tell you what to do or not to do. I didn't even do 15-25 a week outside of class. Maybe 5, and that's probably pushing it. But I wasn't top 10% of the class either. Full disclosure.

ETA Of course I did the customary 12 hours a day every day the two or so weeks before finals thing.
This post was edited on 4/23/15 at 4:02 pm
Posted by PrideofTheSEC
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 4/23/15 at 4:09 pm to
I'm sure I'll end up not doing nearly as much as that but I didn't want to sound like a total slap dick when that guy said 50 hours
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80229 posts
Posted on 4/23/15 at 4:12 pm to
Some people just have knack for the subject matter and pick it up more quickly than others. Don't use someone else's number as your benchmark. And don't listen to all the Dudley Do-Rights talk about how long they've studied for. Just do you.

When you can explain it to a stranger, you know it. Learn it and read until you get to that point.

Your 1L year, find some old exams and start writing model answers early.

The subject matter is not hard; it's the writing that trips people up.
This post was edited on 4/23/15 at 4:15 pm
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39581 posts
Posted on 4/23/15 at 4:12 pm to
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I'm sure I'll end up not doing nearly as much as that but I didn't want to sound like a total slap dick when that guy said 50 hours



Don't let anybody punk you out when they start talking about how much they study or whatever.

You'll never tell who is doing well or not outside the obvious law review. Some of the dumbasses studied relentlessly and would make weird faces when you didn't. One guy I went to school with sounded like a moron and was absolutely shitfaced 90% of the time and wouldn't know dick in class. He transferred to UT Austin.

So just do you man.

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Your 1L year, find some old exams and start writing model answers early.



I should have done this. Worked great for the bar. You go from feeling like you know jack shite to feeling like a God overnight.
This post was edited on 4/23/15 at 4:14 pm
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 4/23/15 at 4:13 pm to
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I'm sure I'll end up not doing nearly as much as that but I didn't want to sound like a total slap dick when that guy said 50 hours

they sent my gf a big scare package over the summer before she started, it was ridiculous, it pretty much said you can't have an outside life , much less a SO during ls, she was pretty anal(except where you wanted her to be,) and probably could have taken first year finals on the first day of class, and she came from a family of attorneys
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 4/23/15 at 4:19 pm to
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Some people just have knack for the subject matter and pick it up more quickly than others.


Very true. Some very smart people just don't have it. Law requires a high tolerance for ambiguity. I found that engineers and science types struggled with that.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80229 posts
Posted on 4/23/15 at 4:20 pm to
I've been a manipulative, rationalizing shite head my whole life so I took to it like a pig in shite.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 4/23/15 at 4:24 pm to
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full ride


Good for you. Having a full ride made it cheap. It didn't make me special.

Most people at the top of the class were despised. I worked hard to be at the top of my class and to be a good dude. Many of my classmates remember that. It's a nice feeling, and I am far, far prouder of that than any grades or scholarships.

This isn't a subtle brag. I was first in my class and went for free. So what? I still learned from my classmates. I still learn every day from other lawyers. I still need to strive every day to be a person of integrity.

I was lucky and I worked hard. But that didn't make me a good person.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 4/23/15 at 4:29 pm to
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Good for you. Having a full ride made it cheap. It didn't make me special.


I never said it made me special. It just makes being poor tolerable.

Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 4/23/15 at 4:30 pm to
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. I still learn every day from other lawyers

that is a trait that is part of the formula for success, too many people get a sheepskin, license, certificate, whatever, and think that's it! that validates me! when all it is is a license to keep learning, I've been doing what I do for over 35 years now and I try to learn something every time I go to work or to training, and I quite often do
Posted by Mung
NorCal
Member since Aug 2007
9054 posts
Posted on 4/23/15 at 4:32 pm to
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still have a family friend on the BoS


Those Jindal lackeys have no stroke anymore. They have cut so much LSUL can't afford to waive any tuition.

There was a guy in my section at LSUL who was in ROTC with my dad at LSU in the early 1960s. Did his 30+ years in the Army, retired and came to law school.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80229 posts
Posted on 4/23/15 at 4:32 pm to
Any interest in working for the FAA or do you want to actually practice?

With your pilot background and a law degree, you could probably land a pretty sweet gig somewhere up in the FAA bureaucracy.

Posted by SabiDojo
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Member since Nov 2010
83933 posts
Posted on 4/23/15 at 4:33 pm to
That's what I was thinking.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 4/23/15 at 4:36 pm to
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you could probably land a pretty sweet gig somewhere up in the FAA bureaucracy.


got too much living to do, that's why I'm quitting early, don't think I'd want to get linked up with those bozos except maybe on a consulting basis, that's where the easy $ is
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 4/23/15 at 4:40 pm to
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Those Jindal lackeys have no stroke anymore

the one I'm talking about could probably force Jindal to resign if he became to much of a pest
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
83933 posts
Posted on 4/23/15 at 4:41 pm to
Send him my resume pls
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
26519 posts
Posted on 4/23/15 at 6:22 pm to
I studied a metric frickton my 1L year, made moot court, and did pretty well. Now that I am a 2L, I have a nice, 10-15 hour a week system. I can't even imagine how little I'm gonna work next year
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