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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 3/7/25 at 5:21 pm to Lakeboy7
Posted on 3/7/25 at 5:21 pm to Lakeboy7
Ukraine Bros....Should Ukraine soldiers in Kursk surrender or fight to the death? That's a decent chunk of meat in that pocket
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Posted on 3/7/25 at 5:33 pm to John Barron
If I were surrounded by Russians and there was no hope I wouldn’t surrender. They are going to torture you and then kill you.
Unfortunately it’s better to fight and take some Russians with you.
Unfortunately it’s better to fight and take some Russians with you.
This post was edited on 3/7/25 at 7:13 pm
Posted on 3/7/25 at 5:47 pm to Lakeboy7
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Hey budddy how is the Trump voters for Ukraine going? Not good huh.
During the election it was posted several times exactly what Trump would do (sell them out) to Ukraine but no, Trump was going to give Ukraine MORE aid remember? For peace.
I don’t blame Trump, he is consistently a rotten cocksucker but you know what you are getting. No the blame lies with people that voted for Trump and somehow thought he would cross up his buddy Vlad and treat the Ukrainians fairly. That’s you. Is Wee Wee still posting? Probably not huh.
Enjoy the slaughter!!!! You voted for this.
Harsh dude...
There should be no universe where a Republican candidate, of all people, would do this, so I can't fault them for holding onto their faith in things being what they were used to.
I'm much more amazed by the likes of Rubio, Johnson, Thune, Graham... biting their tongues off sitting on the sidelines and having to tow the party line... having to put Tulsi Gabbard, who I didn't trust when she was a Democrat, in charge of intelligence.
Posted on 3/7/25 at 6:02 pm to Lee B
Harsh?
Explain that to the Ukrainians. “I support your cause but I’m voting for the con man who is not so secretly in love with Putin. It’s complicated”.
Explain that to the Ukrainians. “I support your cause but I’m voting for the con man who is not so secretly in love with Putin. It’s complicated”.
Posted on 3/7/25 at 6:06 pm to Lee B
Where things are at presently:
Putin is not going to stop. He just isn't. Trump can't do anything to make him stop... sanctions package number 37 or whatever... who cares? Relieving sanctions? Even that one is not worth it... Putin isn't going to starve, and Russians don't seem ready to revolt over their economy being in shambles.
So what can Trump do?
He can force Ukraine to lose. Not a good look... and America is a pariah nation. And then Russia doesn't stop until it has the entire country anyway.
He can resume arming Ukraine, but not tying one arm behind their back so they can possibly win eventually when Russia collapses... which puts him back in Biden's shoes.
He seems more set on the first one. So he can say "I ended the war. Notice I didn't get a Nobel Peace Prize though Obama did for doing nothing!?!"
Putin is not going to stop. He just isn't. Trump can't do anything to make him stop... sanctions package number 37 or whatever... who cares? Relieving sanctions? Even that one is not worth it... Putin isn't going to starve, and Russians don't seem ready to revolt over their economy being in shambles.
So what can Trump do?
He can force Ukraine to lose. Not a good look... and America is a pariah nation. And then Russia doesn't stop until it has the entire country anyway.
He can resume arming Ukraine, but not tying one arm behind their back so they can possibly win eventually when Russia collapses... which puts him back in Biden's shoes.
He seems more set on the first one. So he can say "I ended the war. Notice I didn't get a Nobel Peace Prize though Obama did for doing nothing!?!"
Posted on 3/7/25 at 6:08 pm to Lakeboy7
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Harsh?
Explain that to the Ukrainians. “I support your cause but I’m voting for the con man who is not so secretly in love with Putin. It’s complicated”.
I know...
Posted on 3/7/25 at 6:19 pm to cypher
Posted on 3/7/25 at 6:26 pm to cypher
Trump is just making sure the Ukrainians are ready….
Posted on 3/7/25 at 6:54 pm to Lakeboy7
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Explain that to the Ukrainians
Idk if you forgot but this is the United States. What Ukraine and Ukrainians want is not that important to the vast majority of voters.
Just because you really care, doesn’t mean a lot of other people do. I know that may be a hard reality
Posted on 3/7/25 at 6:57 pm to texag7
Sure. And there is a way to disengage.
This isn’t it.
This isn’t it.
Posted on 3/7/25 at 6:59 pm to Lakeboy7
quote:
Sure. And there is a way to disengage. This isn’t it.
*In your opinion which doesn’t matter.
Posted on 3/7/25 at 7:07 pm to texag7
Close your quotation attempt, would make you look less stupid.
Posted on 3/7/25 at 7:11 pm to Lakeboy7
That’s an asterisk moron
Slava!
Slava!
Posted on 3/7/25 at 7:20 pm to Lakeboy7
Posted on 3/7/25 at 8:24 pm to Lakeboy7
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Trump is just making sure the Ukrainians are ready…
Unless this is all to get Russia to the negotiation table for the world to see they don't want peace and expose for all to see
In the meantime the US get paid for its largesse to Ukraine, not much different that with the Brits and Russians in WWII. We didn't just GIVE things to them
Posted on 3/7/25 at 8:29 pm to Lakeboy7
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Hey budddy how is the Trump voters for Ukraine going? Not good huh.
Lower oil prices hurt Russia badly. Under $50 a barrel is just cash flow and not profit.
Posted on 3/7/25 at 8:47 pm to CitizenK
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Lower oil prices hurt Russia badly. Under $50 a barrel is just cash flow and not profit.
I don’t vote depending on one issue. Trump was by far the candidate that I liked. So far hechas done great except for Ukraine.
JMHO
This post was edited on 3/7/25 at 9:04 pm
Posted on 3/7/25 at 9:00 pm to CitizenK
quote:
quote:
Trump is just making sure the Ukrainians are ready…
Unless this is all to get Russia to the negotiation table for the world to see they don't want peace and expose for all to see
Who needs to have that exposed? Who honestly believes or trusts Russia? This and everything else is making the world conclude that it can't trust or believe Trump.
And if this is his 4D chess gambit, what happens when "the world" clutches its pearls and accepts Putin's dishonesty?
How many Ukrainians will have died proving that point that doesn't need proving?
Who will be left to fight?
What will Trump do then?
History will record the US making a heel turn and joining Russia's side.
Posted on 3/7/25 at 9:02 pm to CitizenK
ISW Update March 7 2025
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Key Takeaways:
Russian forces conducted one of the largest ever missile and drone strikes against Ukraine on the night of March 6 to 7 as Russian forces continue to adapt strike packages to overwhelm Ukraine's air defense umbrella by increasing the total number of Shahed and decoy drones in each strike.
Russian forces began increasing the number of Shahed and decoy drones in strike packages in Fall 2024, likely to adapt to successful Ukrainian electronic warfare (EW) innovations.
Russia will likely take advantage of the suspension of US military aid to and intelligence sharing with Ukraine to intensify its long-range strike campaign and deplete Ukrainian air defense missiles.
Russian forces are further intensifying offensive operations in select frontline areas likely in order to capitalize on any immediate and longer-term battlefield impacts of the cessation of US aid to Ukraine.
Russian forces recently advanced into northern Sumy Oblast for the first time since 2022 – when Ukrainian forces pushed Russian forces from significant swathes of Ukrainian territory following the initial months of Russian advances. Russian forces likely intend to leverage limited advances into Sumy Oblast to completely expel Ukrainian forces from Kursk Oblast among other objectives.
Russian forces also recently intensified offensive operations aimed at seizing Chasiv Yar and attacking Kostyantynivka – the southernmost settlement of Ukraine's fortress belt in Donetsk Oblast.
Russian officials continue to explicitly reject making any concessions in future peace negotiations or accepting any US, European, or Ukrainian peace proposals.
Lithuania's intelligence services assessed that Russia may have the capabilities to conduct a limited campaign against one or several NATO countries within three to five years, an assessment that is consistent with ISW's assessments about Russian efforts to restructure and prepare its military and society for a future conflict with NATO in the medium to long-term.
The United Kingdom (UK) issued Ukraine's first tranche of revenue generated from frozen Russian assets. Russian forces recently advanced in Sumy Oblast and near Borova, Chasiv Yar, Toretsk, and Pokrovsk.
The Kremlin continues to leverage its "Time of Heroes" program to fill government positions with veterans of its war in Ukraine as part of a long-term effort to militarize Russian society and form a new cadre of loyal Russian officials.
Posted on 3/7/25 at 9:07 pm to StormyMcMan
Regarding the Russian breakthrough in Kursk line, the stop at rise and it was down a ravine from what I can tell with terrain maps. It could well be a "moti" of Finnish fame and the force will be chopped up in a day or two. Failure to widen the shoulders will not bode well for Russia.
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