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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 2/22/25 at 7:03 am to cypher
Posted on 2/22/25 at 7:03 am to cypher
Trump threatens Ukraine with Starlink sanction...
US threatens to shut off Starlink if Ukraine won't sign minerals deal, sources tell Reuters
by Abbey Fenbert February 22, 2025 7:43 AM
The United States has threatened to cut off Ukraine's access to Starlink satellite internet terminals if Kyiv does not reach a deal with the U.S. regarding critical mineral resources, Reuters reported on Feb. 21, citing three sources familiar with the negotiations.
U.S. and Ukrainian officials are currently negotiating the terms of a revised minerals deal after President Volodymyr Zelensky refused to sign an initial proposal. U.S. President Donald Trump said earlier on Feb. 21 that the parties are "pretty close" to an agreement.
U.S. negotiators have warned that Ukraine would lose access to Starlink terminals, owned by billionaire Elon Musk's company SpaceX, if Kyiv did not sign the deal, sources told Reuters.
Starlink internet terminals have played a crucial role in securing communications in the war in Ukraine. Last year, Ukraine said that approximately 42,000 terminals were in operation across the military, hospitals, businesses, and aid organizations.
Washington first raised the prospect of shutting off Starlink service after Zelensky rejected the deal presented by U.S. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent on Feb. 12, sources said. The deal reportedly sought a 50% stake in Ukraine's natural resources, including critical minerals, oil, and gas, without offering Ukraine any concrete security guarantees.
The Starlink threat came up again in talks with U.S. Special Envoy Keith Kellogg, who met with Zelensky and other Ukrainian officials in Kyiv on Feb. 20.
The Kyiv Independent
US threatens to shut off Starlink if Ukraine won't sign minerals deal, sources tell Reuters
by Abbey Fenbert February 22, 2025 7:43 AM
The United States has threatened to cut off Ukraine's access to Starlink satellite internet terminals if Kyiv does not reach a deal with the U.S. regarding critical mineral resources, Reuters reported on Feb. 21, citing three sources familiar with the negotiations.
U.S. and Ukrainian officials are currently negotiating the terms of a revised minerals deal after President Volodymyr Zelensky refused to sign an initial proposal. U.S. President Donald Trump said earlier on Feb. 21 that the parties are "pretty close" to an agreement.
U.S. negotiators have warned that Ukraine would lose access to Starlink terminals, owned by billionaire Elon Musk's company SpaceX, if Kyiv did not sign the deal, sources told Reuters.
Starlink internet terminals have played a crucial role in securing communications in the war in Ukraine. Last year, Ukraine said that approximately 42,000 terminals were in operation across the military, hospitals, businesses, and aid organizations.
Washington first raised the prospect of shutting off Starlink service after Zelensky rejected the deal presented by U.S. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent on Feb. 12, sources said. The deal reportedly sought a 50% stake in Ukraine's natural resources, including critical minerals, oil, and gas, without offering Ukraine any concrete security guarantees.
The Starlink threat came up again in talks with U.S. Special Envoy Keith Kellogg, who met with Zelensky and other Ukrainian officials in Kyiv on Feb. 20.
The Kyiv Independent
This post was edited on 2/22/25 at 7:11 am
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Posted on 2/22/25 at 7:06 am to Coeur du Tigre
Everyone needs to calm the phuck down. Opening round of negotiations every single party wants max more than they will obtain in any deal. Any public announcement is to get support for positioning and not really indicative of what is going to end up if anything.
Russia is still under tremendous economic pressure and has been unable to replace what it has lost in terms of equipment on the battlefield an economically at home.
Lots of new lithium sources have been discovered include a motherload in Norway. The economy of recovery is the question for each such as easy of mining (either by digging or pumping hot water to bring up dissolved solids) and purity of deposit by deposit.
New methods have been developed to recover rare earth minerals from places like tailings from bauxite refining to alumina, hydraulic fracturing water, etc...
FWIW, I was at the pilot plant for recovery from bauxite tailings near Baton Rouge a year ago. It was by accident. A local demolition contractor asked me to look at his project to demolish the entire plant and didn't tell me that one warehouse was owned by the company performing the rare earth's recovery. I thought I had hit a homerun in buying up this equipment for 5 cents on the dollar as he had no clue of value. Then he tells me that's not part of the scope of his contract.
Russia is still under tremendous economic pressure and has been unable to replace what it has lost in terms of equipment on the battlefield an economically at home.
Lots of new lithium sources have been discovered include a motherload in Norway. The economy of recovery is the question for each such as easy of mining (either by digging or pumping hot water to bring up dissolved solids) and purity of deposit by deposit.
New methods have been developed to recover rare earth minerals from places like tailings from bauxite refining to alumina, hydraulic fracturing water, etc...
FWIW, I was at the pilot plant for recovery from bauxite tailings near Baton Rouge a year ago. It was by accident. A local demolition contractor asked me to look at his project to demolish the entire plant and didn't tell me that one warehouse was owned by the company performing the rare earth's recovery. I thought I had hit a homerun in buying up this equipment for 5 cents on the dollar as he had no clue of value. Then he tells me that's not part of the scope of his contract.
Posted on 2/22/25 at 7:26 am to CitizenK
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Everyone needs to calm the phuck down. Opening round of negotiations every single party wants max more than they will obtain in any deal. Any public announcement is to get support for positioning and not really indicative of what is going to end up if anything.
Of course. However, when the opening round is completely bonkers, it’s also appropriate to recognize that one of the negotiating parties is not rational and is possibly looking to sabotage the negotiations.
I’ve commented for months that Trump came into office with a tremendous opportunity to leverage American strength in ways he could not do last time, as long as they didn’t screw it up. We haven’t lost that opportunity. But it is looking more like he and his crew will screw it up.
Posted on 2/22/25 at 7:26 am to CitizenK
Happy 3 year anniversary of the 3 day special military operation of then then supposed 2nd best military in the world.
Posted on 2/22/25 at 7:33 am to trinidadtiger
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I see the 57% approval rating of zelensky was some organization in kyiv, no doubt funded by USAID.
His actual approval rating is closer to 16% which explains why he wont hold elections.
This is all true. His real approval rating is around 12-16%.
Posted on 2/22/25 at 7:39 am to TBoy
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But it is looking more like he and his crew will screw it up.
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TBoy
Welp we now know for sure hes not screwing it up
Posted on 2/22/25 at 8:17 am to Coeur du Tigre
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Trump wants to get the minerals deal signed, then dump security responsibilities for Ukraine onto the UN. The key for Kyiv is to only agree to mineral rights in currently occupied territory. Force the US / Saudi 'investors' to drive off the Russians with US weapons and UKR army.
You're an anti-American psycho.
People loyal to the US don't want shite like this. You care way more about that blue and yellow flag shite hole than you do the US.
Posted on 2/22/25 at 8:51 am to VolSquatch
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People loyal to the US don't want shite like this.
People loyal to the US don’t support the proven enemies of our country either.
Posted on 2/22/25 at 9:00 am to REG861
Posted on 2/22/25 at 9:06 am to cypher
Bagdad Bob of Kiev is busy this morning.
Posted on 2/22/25 at 9:11 am to VolSquatch
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You're an anti-American psycho.
As the end draws near these Zelenskyites are becoming more and more unhinged.
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People loyal to the US don't want shite like this. You care way more about that blue and yellow flag shite hole than you do the US.
True of all of the Ukrainian hard-cores on here. Very strange.
This post was edited on 2/22/25 at 9:15 am
Posted on 2/22/25 at 9:12 am to texag7
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His real approval rating is around 12-16%.
That’s unreal. He shot up from 4% to 12-16% in less than a week!
Posted on 2/22/25 at 9:17 am to Camp Randall
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People loyal to the US don’t support the proven enemies of our country either.
In this bizarro world, supporting Ukraine makes you an enemy of the US.
Previously the narrative is Ukraine is none of our business. It’s a European problem. We need to stay out and let Europe take care of your own business.
A yesr later the same people see telling us that it’s Ukraine’s fault, Russia was goaded into war, Zekensky is stealing all our money and if you aren’t for letting Russia win you are not a patriot.
Posted on 2/22/25 at 9:19 am to CitizenK
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I thought I had hit a homerun
That's the story of your whole life.
Nothing but fan fiction and fantasy from you 
Posted on 2/22/25 at 9:24 am to cypher
Ukrainian Security Service drones hit substation supplying oil to to large Russian refineries
VALENTYNA ROMANENKO, STANISLAV POHORILOV — Saturday, 22 February 2025, 11:19
Drones belonging to the Security Service of Ukraine (SSU) successfully attacked a substation that powers the Novovelichkovskaya oil pumping station in Russia’s Krasnodar Krai on 20 February.
Source: Ukrainska Pravda sources in Ukraine’s defence forces
Quote: "On 20 February, ‘cotton’ from the SSU stopped the Novovelichkovskaya oil pumping station. This is one of the key stations for transporting oil in the Kuban region: it supplies oil to the Afipsky and Ilsky oil refineries." ["Cotton" – Russian propaganda, initially refusing to use the word "vzryv" (explosion), used "khlopok" (a bang) instead. However, "khlopok" also means "cotton", and this has since become a meme – ed.]
Details: The sources noted that the drone strike had hit the 110/35/10 kV power substation that supplies the refinery. The substation caught fire, causing a complete power outage and an emergency shutdown of the oil pumping process. The Russians are currently establishing the amount of damage.
Ukrainska Pravda
VALENTYNA ROMANENKO, STANISLAV POHORILOV — Saturday, 22 February 2025, 11:19
Drones belonging to the Security Service of Ukraine (SSU) successfully attacked a substation that powers the Novovelichkovskaya oil pumping station in Russia’s Krasnodar Krai on 20 February.
Source: Ukrainska Pravda sources in Ukraine’s defence forces
Quote: "On 20 February, ‘cotton’ from the SSU stopped the Novovelichkovskaya oil pumping station. This is one of the key stations for transporting oil in the Kuban region: it supplies oil to the Afipsky and Ilsky oil refineries." ["Cotton" – Russian propaganda, initially refusing to use the word "vzryv" (explosion), used "khlopok" (a bang) instead. However, "khlopok" also means "cotton", and this has since become a meme – ed.]
Details: The sources noted that the drone strike had hit the 110/35/10 kV power substation that supplies the refinery. The substation caught fire, causing a complete power outage and an emergency shutdown of the oil pumping process. The Russians are currently establishing the amount of damage.
Ukrainska Pravda
Posted on 2/22/25 at 9:32 am to cypher
Posted on 2/22/25 at 9:47 am to doubleb
It’s whatever narrative put out by the Kremlin to their propaganda farms at the time. This trickles down to actual regular Americans that have unknowingly brainwashed themselves with echo chamber podcasts, YouTube channels, and Twitter/social media. It’s crazy to see the different waves of Russian narratives spread across media.
Any rational thinking American could easily not give two shits about Ukraine but actually supporting Russia and their team of street shitting enemies of The USA is another thing altogether.
Any rational thinking American could easily not give two shits about Ukraine but actually supporting Russia and their team of street shitting enemies of The USA is another thing altogether.
Posted on 2/22/25 at 9:58 am to Camp Randall
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Any rational thinking American could easily not give two shits about Ukraine but actually supporting Russia and their team of street shitting enemies of The USA is another thing altogether.
I could understand those with an isolationist view point, I disagreed, but I could understand those that were against using our tax dollars to help Ukraine, and their opinion that we should not get involved.
But those same people are now advocating for Russia and defending their aggression. They tell us not to believe the msm, but they believe anything that any of the Russian supporters put out there. They support Putin and call Zekensky the bad guy.
Posted on 2/22/25 at 9:59 am to Camp Randall
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Any rational thinking American could easily not give two shits about Ukraine but actually supporting Russia and their team of street shitting enemies of The USA is another thing altogether.
The problem here is that your definition of supporting Russia is actually just "not supporting Ukraine".
I think it's pretty clear the vast majority of anti-Ukraine posters here just don't want our money going to Ukraine, and who they happen to be fighting against is mostly irrelevant
Posted on 2/22/25 at 10:02 am to doubleb
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I could understand those with an isolationist view point, I disagreed, but I could understand those that were against using our tax dollars to help Ukraine, and their opinion that we should not get involved.
But those same people are now advocating for Russia and defending their aggression. They tell us not to believe the msm, but they believe anything that any of the Russian supporters put out there. They support Putin and call Zekensky the bad guy.
Not surprising that a person who can't answer a yes or no question also doesn't have reading comprehension.
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