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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 8/20/22 at 4:53 pm to
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 8/20/22 at 4:53 pm to
is this where i link lazerpigs videos on the a10?

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Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 8/20/22 at 4:55 pm to
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Two Albanian soldiers fell ill while detaining 3 suspected Russian agents found illegally within the perimeter of a weapons factory in Gramsh.

It is reported the soldiers were sprayed with what they thought was pepper spray.

Albania is a nato country.


hmm
Posted by Obtuse1
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Posted on 8/20/22 at 4:56 pm to
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The parade of destroyed Russian military machines is a part of this year's Ukraine's Independence Day celebration, planned for Aug. 24.


They need farmers towing the tanks and at least one piece of artillery with a banana-peeled tube.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 8/20/22 at 4:59 pm to
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is this where i link lazerpigs videos on the a10?



Because the name A10 Fairchild Republic shitting hippo doesn't sound nearly as cool.
This post was edited on 8/20/22 at 5:04 pm
Posted by CitizenK
BR
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Posted on 8/20/22 at 5:05 pm to
That was common practice until fertilizer became inexpensive enough to not need fallow years. I well remember the rice fields of SW LA as a kid. It was rice, then cattle, then soybeans though that may not be the order of rotation.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 8/20/22 at 5:17 pm to
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All you need for fertilizer are some chickens and goats and a fallow field then legumes then corn rotate annually. Some things like winter peas can also be used as part of the rotation. No fertilizer needed. Should be common practice around the world.



It could be but farmers would not be able to have the yields to feed the world. Especially since 25-33% (depending on if it is a 3 crop or 4 crop rotation cycle) of farm land being fallow every year.
Posted by Decatur
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Posted on 8/20/22 at 5:21 pm to
Looks like a close call for Alexander Dugin this evening. Not going to post the video.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 8/20/22 at 5:22 pm to
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It could be but farmers would not be able to have the yields to feed the world.


I doubt you are going to get 40+ bushels an acre of wheat with chicken shite and rotating nitrogen-fixing crops.
Posted by Abstract Queso Dip
Member since Mar 2021
5878 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 5:26 pm to
We still do it a little for our deer plots a little. Just a way of not having to haul in a bunch of fertilizer obviously we don't do goats and chickens but you can still rotate and some crops or nitrogen fixing or phosphorus fixing. I am still a firm believer in deer having a diverse food selection. We have several acres of hardwoods in and around pines. Pretty nice to sit in my folks dining room and watch deer out the window eating white oak acorns when they drop. There is something they eat in the front yard that is a mix of weeds and maybe rye grass. Maybe that's what it is. I just think that style of farming is not only more nutritious but reduces run off and long term drought irrigation problems. I'm definitely interested in the long term effects on this war and agriculture. I think it will be a perfect incubation bubble for testing modern day agriculture/nutrition needs and doing so in a more ecological friendly manner. Mass crop production is going to eventually devastate the Midwest. There are plenty of issues on slaughter house and logistical problems stateside that need to be addressed specifically government subsidies and red tape. Used to you could raise a family on 200 milk cows. It's impossible these days.
This post was edited on 8/20/22 at 5:28 pm
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 8/20/22 at 5:26 pm to
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Looks like Ukraine is celebrating early because it's likely that Russia will launch some missiles at Kyiv on Wednesday


This thread has said this for months
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 8/20/22 at 5:33 pm to
That is not how it works in real life. Deer plot is one thing, an operating farm is another.

Just remember that there were piles upon piles of horse/mule manure everywhere 100 years ago.
Posted by alpinetiger
Salt Lake City
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 8/20/22 at 6:35 pm to
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Do the Ukes have the necessary ability to control the airspace enough to deploy Hogs? I don't know much about tactics and strategy above tree top level but it seems like they would be very vulnerable to fast movers. I know they have chaff and flares along with MWS and JMR maybe ECM too but they just seem like easy pickings for MiGs. The only times I needed A-10 support was when we had complete air supremacy so I don't know if it is needed or not.
I like your prose. You're so smart.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 8/20/22 at 6:44 pm to
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Looks like there was an assassination attempted on Alexander Dugin that killed his daughter, fair to say things will escalate a lot from here!



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Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 8/20/22 at 6:52 pm to
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Looks like a close call for Alexander Dugin this evening. Not going to post the video.



IED or planted on the vehicle that takes a high level of sophistication and planning. And gives the home folk something to think about.
Posted by alpinetiger
Salt Lake City
Member since Apr 2017
5864 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 6:59 pm to
Lakeboy joins the chat...
Posted by Abstract Queso Dip
Member since Mar 2021
5878 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 7:40 pm to
There are quite a few self sustainable farms in the US on a fairly large scale. Some of which were purchased at a huge discount because they were deemed unfarmable. We have been taking shortcuts for years now and most of what we grow isn't nutritious. It is for ethanol or some other end product most of which is exported. To say we can't do it is a lie. Corporate farming is destroying our land. Corporations want money now and will pawn off the land in the future after realigning it and have it as a tax write-off or get disaster relief from the feds when it this the problem corporations, lobbyists, and the feds created. We have one of if not the best arable land in the world and we are slowly destroying it.

There is a huge market for stuff that isn't mass produced but all that ends up in high end restaurants it is the reason Americans are fat. And one of the main reasons why we have ethanol made from corn in our gasoline.
This post was edited on 8/20/22 at 7:41 pm
Posted by Abstract Queso Dip
Member since Mar 2021
5878 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 7:43 pm to
Sorry for long story but it absolutely should be in the backs of Ukrainian or Russia long term goals. Ukraine or Russia extended is gonna need food to feed their populace. Not everything can be bought with oil dollars in the future
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 8/20/22 at 7:47 pm to
I hope that you realize that those corporations are set up by local farmers as LLC's. In fact almost all the ethanol plants are actually owned by local farmers as 51% ownership. It doesn't matter whose name is on the sign.

One neighbor had been cautioning his brother, a contract and sharecropping farmer in NW Iowa, about committing all of his crop to the ethanol plant he has part ownership in due the price was about $2 more per bushel. Oh, it's the same corn used to make cornmeal and corn on the cob at your local grocer, or for export. He got lucky for several years as his crop yield was the same as he booked for sale with the ethanol plant. Otherwise, he would have had to buy what he was short of from the open market.

As far as chemicals being made from "food" that has been going on for well over 100 years, maybe even as much as 150, especially with corn.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45712 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 7:48 pm to
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More work of air defense in Sevastopol tonight. In light of this, every car coming into Sevastopol is stopped and searched. There are also reports of big traffic jams headed outside Sevastopol.

Ubegay, Ivan, poka mozhesh'.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16114 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 7:50 pm to
Ukraine has rich soil with a layer of top soil easily on par with the Great Plains. Those trench systems show easily 6 feet of topsoil to me. This is far better than the farmland almost anywhere in the South except the Atchafalya Basin and Mississippi Delta between Vicksburg and Memphis, on both sides of the river.
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