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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 7/1/22 at 2:40 pm to
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39825 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 2:40 pm to
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Youre an economic simpleton. You cannot increase demand, with maxed supply lines and not suffer.



Let's be honest, you being a simpleton about literally everything hasn't really informed how much you think you know, despite evidence otherwise. It's a consistent theme with you. Regardless of the subject, you'll be there chiming in with the same refrain, over and over, immune to both correction and explanation. It's an impressive level of dumbassery.

Supply chain disruptions existed before the Russian invasion, and will likely take years to fix. Despite what the president has said, the total amount of oil produced by the US is projected to increase. I'm asking for you to consider that there are other confounding variables you aren't thinking about that are independent of US actions. Because the data suggests something entirely different from what you are suggesting.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 2:42 pm to
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Supply chain disruptions existed before the Russian invasion


And are being made worse by government action. You are incapable of understanding very simple econ that my grandkids can understand.

Supply chains are maxed. Adding money for goods and services into the system makes it worse, and prolongs recovery.

Its basic econ. You don't understand. its ok, most average humans are economically ignorant.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39825 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 2:42 pm to
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Demand shot up above the ability to supply. The smart thing to do is lower demand.



But energy consumption and demands have consistently increased despite the relative increase in US oil production, which doubled according to the data from BP between 2011 and 2021. Total consumption in the US remained relatively stable in that time period as well. What does that suggest to you?
Posted by Malik Agar
Member since Nov 2012
12076 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 2:43 pm to

Disgusting


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The Pentagon announced a new security assistance package for Ukraine worth $820 million.


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The 14th drawdown of equipment from U.S. military inventories includes additional ammunition for the High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems, or HIMARS.

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The Pentagon will also provide Ukraine with two National Advanced Surface-to-Air Missile Systems, or NASAMS, as well as up to 150,000 rounds of 155 mm artillery ammunition and four additional counter-artillery radars.


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The new package brings the U.S. commitment to approximately $6.9 billion since the beginning of Russia’s unprovoked invasion on Feb. 24.





Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 2:44 pm to
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But energy consumption and demands have consistently increased


Energy, goods, all products.

And your government action makes it worse.

The best thing for us is for the war to end. We are subsidizing the war, so its going to last a long time and stretch supply chains further because war destroys recourses at an alarming rate.

I know you don't get it. Its ok.
This post was edited on 7/1/22 at 2:45 pm
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 2:47 pm to
And we just have given Ukraine more money! Score!!!!!!!!!
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 2:48 pm to
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And we just have given Ukraine more money! Score!!!!!!!!!


That'll lower prices!
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 2:51 pm to
Listen fat, Putin must pay for all of these problems he’s caused Americans.
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 2:53 pm to
7 billion. Gone. Wasted. Good for what?

Well for us it is, but for the swamp, this is just fantastic news.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39825 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 2:56 pm to
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And are being made worse by government action.


You don't seem to understand the scale of this claim.

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Supply chains are maxed. Adding money for goods and services into the system makes it worse, and prolongs recovery.


But none of this makes any sense in terms of the actual timeline of assistance, as the bill itself required the SOS to give Congress a itemized report on the objectives and budget for the original aid amount. That request was finally made by Blinken on April 28th, to which Congress had 15 days to respond. Before the bill made it to Congress, inflation in December was already at 7 percent, and was 7.5 percent in January. While no appropriations were made, inflation was 7.9 percent in February and then 8.5 and 8.3 percent for March and April, before any money had been doled out at all.

The effects of the logistics situation seems independent of the US's actions on Ukraine, if you actually look at the timeline. It just seems like a convenient explanation for people too lazy to care about the details.
This post was edited on 7/1/22 at 3:04 pm
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
27459 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 2:58 pm to
Americans are peasants to the swamp.
This post was edited on 7/1/22 at 2:59 pm
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39825 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 2:59 pm to
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Energy, goods, all products.

And your government action makes it worse.



You keep missing the part where I'm talking about the long-term. Why are you avoiding that? Again, regardless of the US's approach to energy, the price has increased even when demand has stayed relatively stable. That implies something far more complicated than a simple input/output supply and demand scenario.

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I know you don't get it. Its ok.



Brother, it appears that you don't get it, because as usual you are careless with relevant details. You are a simple-minded person who deeply desires simple-minded things.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15980 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 3:00 pm to
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people don't think this had an affect, they're idiots..
Evidently there's people in this thread who don't understand economics and why printing money to give to Ukraine at the present time is really stupid.


This needs to be posted every day
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 3:00 pm to
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The best thing for us is for the war to end. We are subsidizing the war, so its going to last a long time and stretch supply chains further because war destroys recourses at an alarming rate.





Man I hope you are drunk.

If not take the L and go to Happy Hour.
This post was edited on 7/1/22 at 3:04 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 3:01 pm to
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The new package brings the U.S. commitment to approximately $6.9 billion since the beginning of Russia’s unprovoked invasion on Feb. 24.


Its pretty amazing that we are entering into a recession which can really only be solved by decreasing demand, and people already hurting are applauding sending money to Ukraine, which globally increases demand..

Probably the same people who cried when the 3.5 Trillion climate change debacle fell apart.

Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15980 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 3:02 pm to
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not take tge L and go to Happy Hour.


Change your name to lake idiot. The only people losing are the citizens of USA, Ukraine and Russia.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 3:03 pm to
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The only people losing are the citizens of USA, Ukraine and Russia.


But hey, we just subsidized more war!

Virtue signalers will be very happy.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15980 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 3:03 pm to
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That implies something far more complicated than a simple input/output supply and demand scenario.


I feel sorry for you. You swallowed the propaganda hook, line and sinker
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 3:04 pm to
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This post was edited on 6/17/26 at 10:42 pm
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39825 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 3:05 pm to
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I feel sorry for you.


I feel sorry for you, given that you are unable to go look at data and would rather still repeat retarded refrains.
This post was edited on 7/1/22 at 3:07 pm
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