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re: LA County board asking voters to divert $490 million of Sheriff's budget to social causes

Posted on 8/6/20 at 9:47 am to
Posted by ashy larry
Marcy Projects
Member since Mar 2010
5582 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 9:47 am to
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Sheriff's budget


I am not someone that wants to defund the police, BUT I'd be thrilled to see Sheriffs around here lose some power here in Louisiana. Sheriffs answer to no one and the departments can get inflated b/c they handle things that dont' need to be handled by law enforcement like tax collection.

To quote harry lee, "Why would I want to be governor when I can be king?"
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 9:53 am to
So the part that got in the way is a complete hypothetical that you’ll likely never have to prove true since you agree with conservative ideals?

Neat.
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
10980 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 9:53 am to
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LA County board asking voters to divert $490 million of Sheriff's budget to social causes

As long as its LA, as in Los Angeles, go for it. Let that mofo burn to the ground. It will be a great experiment. DO IT! please do it.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46805 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 10:06 am to
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since you agree with conservative ideals?


Today I learned that being pro-choice, pro-gay marriage, pro-drug legalization and various other social issues are conservative ideals.

Neat.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
45429 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 10:07 am to
That's what I dont get. We need more transparency and oversight for these money managers.
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 10:10 am to
So social justice “protests” will be government funded now? Madness.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26628 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 11:26 am to
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How patriotic it is to openly wish for the failure of America’s largest population centers because you hate the other political party so much.



I actually hate to see this happen.

But at the same time, I can't help people who refuse to help themselves. These are policies that they wanted. And I will vote with my feet if necessary by moving my family to a better, safer area.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26628 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 11:28 am to
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Today I learned that being pro-choice, pro-gay marriage, pro-drug legalization and various other social issues are conservative ideals.


That, along with support for other liberties and rights (including right to own guns) are classically liberal ideas. The term "liberal" has been hijacked unfortunately.

And good luck explaining to some republicans that they and Donald Trump are more in line with classic liberalism than "conservative" ideas. They would be offended by the suggestion.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
64086 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 11:28 am to
IOW, LA County board is asking voters to divert $490 million of Sheriff's budget to NGO's and non-profits run by their friends, family, and political allies.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26628 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 11:30 am to
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divert $490 million of Sheriff's budget to NGO's and non-profits run by their friends, family, and political allies


Basically. This is like Baton Rouge's Council on Aging, which accomplishes very little beyond providing a paycheck for friends and family of connected people. Except that in LA County, there are probably hundreds of them like that.

There are some programs out there to help homeless and mentally ill that do provide an impact. But doing that at the expense of law enforcement is unwise IMO. And they definitely need to be watched closely.
This post was edited on 8/6/20 at 11:33 am
Posted by Legion of Doom
Old Metry
Member since Jan 2018
5779 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 11:31 am to
Actually LA County jail is one of the biggest mental health facilities in the country. These people would be better off getting mental health services in a hospital. I think it would benefit the guards as well. If the public approves it, it actually may not be a bad thing.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
76259 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 11:34 am to
I'm for any legitimate efforts to (re)fund mental health efforts across the country. However, it should not be done at the expense of quality and effective policing.

In a country like ours, there is no reason whatsoever that mental health treatment should fall on untrained, understaffed, and underpaid jailers under the direction of a Sheriff. These people have no business caring for legitimate mental patients, but they are being asked to across the country. We have slashed mental health funding in this country, to our own detriment.

We must find a way to fund the treatment for those unable to get it themselves without undermining police departments. It is not an either/or deal.
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